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This thread was archived on 10 February 2011 by Liquidhelium.

Yes, another changing-a-major-aspect-of-the-wiki type thread, this time to redesign the front door, also known as the Main Page. Now that the new theme has been revealed, it has also revealed the poor adaptability of our main page for a different background colour other than bright white. I think the tried and tested getting consensus to change the page, then opening it up for submissions, having an external survey, and trying to get consensus on the result of the poll would work here as well. Discuss, 222 talk 10:56, January 4, 2011 (UTC)


Support - As nom. 222 talk 10:56, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Support changing main page, strong oppose proposed method - Yes, the main page looks horrible with a brown background and change is necessary. But, I strongly object to your method. "Tried and tested" is not a very good description here. The results that we got from this method is that it takes an inordinately large amount of time to get a result, mainly due to the time-consuming nature of each of the steps you mentioned. Furthermore, only one of the many times that this method has been invoked has actually produced some kind of change.

For something as trivial as what will most likely be the result of swapping a few colors around on the main page, I think it will be much easier for you to ask around a few users what color they think is best (probably on the IRC or in the CC), and just proposing that color outright. That will avoid the major bureaucratic delays that will probably mire us with the current main page until at least March if we go ahead with your proposed method.

For the record, I'd say a variation of brown is probably best. Wink --LiquidTalk 23:21, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

I Support everything Liquid just said. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 23:40, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
i don't want to just give it a new shade of colour, the main page is looking outdated at best and needs a complete redesign. 222 talk 02:13, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Support - Yes, the mainpage does need to be redesigned. I have been working on a new design of the mainpage since Christmas. If the community supports this I'll propose my version alongside anyone else's version. I am almost content with my design/nearly finished. To see it correctly you need the corresponding CSS to have it work and JS slider. Happy hunting. Ryan PM 23:35, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Support - We need a new design. --Aburnett(Talk) 23:43, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Support Ryan's version - Honestly, I don't even have to look at it. I know that Ryan does high quality stuff that looks good. I also agree that we don't need it to be bureaucratic. HaloTalk 23:46, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Take a look. IMHO it does not go well with the new theme. --Aburnett(Talk) 23:48, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
Things can change between now and when this is through. While I am almost finished with it, that doesn't mean the colours aren't. Ryan PM 00:36, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
I know Ryan's not done with it yet, though as of this moment, it looks dreadfully boring. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 18:19, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose Ryan's version - It looks like a disaster on Monobook. Farming cape (t).png Lil cloud 9 Talk 14:31, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know where ya'll going with this but it's not finished and are you looking at it with the proper CSS/JS? Ryan PM 15:41, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose Ryan's version - I'd rather keep it as it is, it's very ugly. bad_fetustalk 14:51, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

This isn't about one person's over another users. I had the ideology that this thread was to determine consensus on whether we want to change it or leave it status quo. Ryan PM 15:41, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - Ryan's design has the potential to be great for us. We need to help him develop it instead of saying things "it's very ugly". Also I Strong Support a redesigning of the main page, our current design is very ugly.   Swizz Talk   Events!   16:58, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Support - A change is good, and since we just changed our theme and working on changing the logo, it seems like a good time to update that page. I think the main page looks fine how it is though. :P svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 22:42, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Strong oppose - The main page layout is great. No need or want to change it. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 22:46, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

PROPOSAL - RuneScape:Main Page - I have been designing it. Well, whatever, who am I for being a jerk. --中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16) 跟我谈话 02:22, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Support - I think it could use an update every once and a while and what better time then when everything else being changed. SaradominSign Me! 02:30, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Main Page Request - Hai. Would it be OK to have a spot on the mainpage to advertise upcoming Wiki events? We have no sitenotice that is seen by everyone so we're stumped as to how we get the message about events out. Thanks.   Swizz Talk   Events!   21:52, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

There is... the "Wiki news" part. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 00:16, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
That's insufficient for this purpose. Look at how much space they give events on RuneHQ. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 00:35, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Supportish - Well, I support bringing the subject of MP design up for debate, though I'm not supporting anyone's sub-proposal. I also oppose the proposed method of running the voting method like we do with the logo, for the reasons Liquid mentioned. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 00:40, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Support Ryan's version - That looks really good. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 00:59, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Evil, happy with it as it is. I certainly don't think browns would look good, and I'd hate for everything to have the same colour rather than the different colours now (even different shades would be better than a single colour). For those of you that want some of the colours changing have you considered pastel colours.Henneyj 05:56, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Why base part of your oppose on an assumption of what the page might look like in future? Have you seen some of the designs that users have created in their own time? None of them are brown. 222 talk 07:28, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
I haven't based any of my oppose on assumptions. My oppose is pretty much contained to the first sentence, the rest is making comments if we were to change it, since that's more helpful than a simple oppose. The thing about browns is based upon comments further up and and a redisign i saw (likely Jeffwang's). The only other user redisign I've seen is Ryan's which I also dislike (although not my reason for opposing). Maybe next time you shouldn't make assumptions about what I've said. Henneyj 14:59, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
222 is asking, more or less, if you think it's possible for a better front page. This thread is not to propose a specific redesign, but to propose that we try to make it better. Your opposition of the thread in general is taken as a belief that it's impossible for the design to be better, and that you don't even want to see what users can come up with, after which everyone has the option of saying why they believe the current design is best. As part of your opposition is obviously about disliking a single-color, brown design, and since 222 obviously didn't check the page history to see that Jeffwang changed the main page to a brown design, nobody was being presumptuous. Leftiness 04:43, January 14, 2011 (UTC)
You've still misunderstood. My opposition is that I don't feel that it needs changing, both in terms of function and the way it looks. That's it. I haven't opposed based on whether I like or dislike a single design, I was simply saying that since people are inevitably going to be working on redesigns (and since there's a large amount of support), designs with just browns wouldn't look that good. I think it's pretty obvious that other types of design would be submitted, and in fact my comments were to encourage this.
I also wasn't saying it's impossible to make it better - of course it's possible. However, I think realistically it's likely that we'll go through a lengthy process for something that isn't better, and didn't, in my opinion at least, need changing in the first place. Henneyj 18:56, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - The front page is perfectly fine as it is. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 12:50, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - Just out of curiosity, I'd like to know what the community thinks about a main page design like the one I am about to describe. The column to the right of the page would be as it is now, though the main column would change. The recent updates (as it's a text wall of information already found on the RuneScape homepage), featured user, and AOTM sections would be removed and replaced with a sort of "news feed". The news feed would include AOTM and UOTM messages, but not RS updates, for the reason given above. I'm having a hard time finding a way to explain this, so look at the list below.

  • Day 1
    • User A becomes UOTM, so a message about this will appear in slot one on the main page, which is below the wiki news section.
  • Day 2
    • Article B is featured, so an article summary will be posted in slot 1
    • User A's message will be moved to slot 2 (below slot one), because it's older.
  • Day 3
    • Plans for event C are finalized, so an advertisement is posted in slot 1.
    • Article B's message goes to slot 2.
    • User A's message goes to slot 3.

Finally, the contents section would be changed to a Portal section, linking to all the major portals. I'm assuming Ajr's proposal on that topic will pass. I'm currently working on an example of this in my sandbox. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 18:19, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - The RS updates part is pretty useful, and I don't see how it harms anything in the first place. Therefore, I see no reason to remove it. bad_fetustalk 09:17, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
People who visit our site also visit the RS homepage, where they see all those updates to begin with, so what purpose is it serving? The proposed redesign requires space, and the news updates is taking up most of it. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 17:36, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Support redesigning the main page - [Pharos] iPhone Edit 11:48, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - Discussion has died, and there is no consensus to redesign the main page or adopt any of the proposed variants. --LiquidTalk 02:44, February 10, 2011 (UTC)