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This thread was archived on 29 March 2011 by Suppa chuppa.


Now that the Winter Wikifest 2011 is over, it's time to think about some of the evident issues brought up in Forum:Discontinue Wikifests. A few ideas were suggested in that thread as an alternative to discontinuing them all together, such as reducing the number of fests to bi-annual/annual and abolishing some of the less successful activities. Right now, there isn't a real proposal, just an idea that needs more ideas to make it progress.

Winter Wikifest 2011

The Winter Wikifest concluded just an hour ago, some encouraging signs were picked up there. The initial turnout was fantastic: about 25 people in total and 10 people who had turned up 15 minutes early. Many of these players were not regular editors, which shows that money does attract people! Wink I think that the Events Team's events have also brought more non-editors into the wiki community, and this may have also contributed to the turnout. Another thing was that the P2P part of the fest just failed, badly. About 8 people remained after the switch-over, which may mean that people don't really care about having P2P events. Also, most of the attendees enjoyed the F2P activities offered, FoG and Clan Wars, showing that there is still some fun in F2P. Hopefully this shows that wikifests are not dead, and with some more improvements they can remain a regular fixture in our calendar.

Discuss, 222 talk 05:08, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

Not-really-helpful supportive comment - As nom. 222 talk 05:08, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Stupid useless sidebar was overlapping the [hide] button for the image so I had to cut it off slightly. --Henneyj 05:37, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose Wikifests - People generally don't like them and won't attend a wikifest or they just won't contribute to the planning of it as we've seen with the recent forum. It's best just to let go of the wikifest. The ET will plan an annual community event if you guys really want.   Swizz Talk   Events!   10:26, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

"and won't attend"? That is completely false. If over 20 people are attending there is clearly still interest, if not with established editors. 222 talk 10:37, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
20 people isn't as good a turnout as it can be. If we can draw almost 80 people to a f2p rev hunt why can you only get 20 for a wikifest? Fests should either be lest often, either annually or biannually, or just totally discontinued.   Swizz Talk   Events!   15:25, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
You have to keep in mind that this was the eastern wikifest. There are more people in the west. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 18:49, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

ET Wikifest if they must still exist in some form - First of all, let me start off this comment with a reminder that Spring has officially started today! =D That means that you had better start planning the spring wikifest! With the average community planning time being 3 months, if you start now you will just manage to fit it in before June 21 and the official start of summer. Let me walk you through the two possibilities.

First, as with most "community" planned events, there are many people who all want their ideas to be implemented in some way. This basically leads to many many many comments and people not really listening to each other. Sorting through them all (and generally few or none actually get implemented--yay for a community planned fest, huh?) will take a lot of time.

The other option, as the doomsday scenario finally transpired this year, is that people want a "community" planned wikifest without knowing the ramifications of what that actually means. It means that community members actually have to get up and plan it. If no one is interested in planning a community planned event, then no surprise it got canceled. I'm wholly supportive of Stelercus for finally putting his foot down and canceling that fest as a demonstration of this model's futility.

So, with those two likely scenarios in mind, I wish you luck in your bid to organize and run the Spring Wikifest 2011!

In all seriousness, though, an ET wikifest will be much better than a community wikifest. All of the fest organizers so far have been ET members. And most community suggestions aren't taken. The ET runs at a much quicker speed and with much more efficiency than any community discussion can ever take. Why don't we just streamline the process and let the ET handle it? That will both improve efficiency and likely improve the final quality of the finished product. It's a shame my Discontinue Wikifests thread was shot down by those who wanted a community organized fest without actually being willing to participate in the organization. --LiquidTalk 14:25, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - I haven't read the entire thread, but seeing the last topic to end wikifests, and this one to change them... perhaps we are just have them too often? I remember when I was on the committee we would have close to 100 people show up and now we are down to 25 with mainpage adverting... perhaps we are just running them too often.. consider shortening it down to 1 annual wikifest, to celebrate the success of the wiki for that fiscal year, and make it big... I understand perhaps wanting a small community for events here and there is fine, but let's reserve that good name of the "wikifest" for something a bit more... enjoyed and reflective on the wiki and it's entire community.

Bonziiznob Talk

14:38, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - I found that one of the main reason for people leaving during the event is because people didn't know what was happening. While we were at FoG, I saw quite a few people leave because of how long it was taking to get into a game, and then when it came to Clan wars, the event wasn't completely planned out as Matt thought we were using his cc and the "Wiki Events" cc rather than his and thebrains cc. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 18:14, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Also, I knew I made the right move by keeping my googles down for the picture, as it just looks so much better. =3 svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 18:15, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - I agree with Liquid. I don't like the idea of organizing a same old-same old Wikifest, but if total control is given to the ET I think we could really make it work. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 20:19, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - I did say it was a bad idea but I agree now that we should have the ET run bi-annual wikifests. They should be able to organise some fun events and make it run smoother. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 06:05, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - Alright, discussion has severely died down here; I guess it actually really didn't ever pick up. It seems the rough consensus is to hand the control of wikifests over to the ET team so that they may try to revive them. Wikifests will no longer be community determined and run but rather managed solely by members of the RuneScape:Events Team. Suppa chuppa Talk 02:52, March 29, 2011 (UTC)