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see also Forum:Referrals_Not_Nominations Forum:Clan_rank_requirements Forum:Proposed_important_changes_to_the_CC


It appears that rank requests have been reopened, and after looking at some pages, it appears that there are only 15 slots left on the R S Wikia friends list for ranks to be added. Between new users receiving administrative powers and the requests being reopened, all the slots will be filled quickly. Therefore, I propose that if a user with a rank becomes inactive, their rank is to be removed. If they return, their rank can be returned as well if requested. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 19:15, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

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Support - Wastes rank space and it would mean there would always be a ranked user online at all times, making sure bad people are dealt with Swiz Talk Review Me 19:20, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Per Steler and Swiz. Quest point cape detail.png Brux Talk 20:24, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Support in principle. But is there still an issue with a delay between a decision being made by the wiki community and actually getting the changes implemented? It may be that we need to review the list periodically when it's getting full, and put out a notice to say that ranked users who are not very active should request their removal. If they become more active again, there should be no issue with getting the rank reinstated without the need to go through the request process again. Leevclarke talk Max_logo_mini.png bulldog_puppy.png 20:26, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

When I say request it again, I mean going to Teng's talk page, not the voting process again. sorry for the lack of clarity. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 20:37, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
It'd make more sense to:
  • Keep a list of all ranked users.
  • Periodically (say, every six months-year) make a notice that all CC ranked users who are still active to visit some page and do something that would confirm that they are still active.
  • Those who do not make it known that they are active 1 month after the notice are given a 1 week notice on their talk page.
  • If still no action has been taken on their part, de-rank. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 00:58, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Per Max FredeTalk 20:28, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - A list should be created with áll members with ranks, and they should all be reviewed. Mark (Talk) • (Contribs) 21:09, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Now there's an excellent idea.  :) Leevclarke talk Max_logo_mini.png bulldog_puppy.png 21:19, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Support - But they need to be able to get their rank again when they become active again. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 21:29, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

That's already part of the proposal. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 21:49, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
I know. I just repeated it because I had nothing to say >.< Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 19:00, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Just for reference, a list of all the current sergeants can be found here: RuneScape:Clan_Chat/Sergeants.  Tien  01:03, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Support - This will give more people the ability to be in the cc Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 01:06, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Per all. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  01:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Great idea due to limits of friends list, if this passes however there will need to be guide lines for de-ranking if inactive such as not playing for at least X amount of time without notice, since someone might just not log on very often for a few days. Reason for the notice frankly is for if someone is going to be too busy for awhile example if a user is moving they're obviously not going to be on for awhile due to getting settled in and packing/unpacking. The time for de-ranking probably should be voted upon. Korasi's sword.png Archmage Elune  TalkHS Void knight deflector.png fetus is my son and I love him. 02:19, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Support/Comment Per all. Also, shouldn't the reopening have before someone got trigger happy and reopened them? Zaros symbol.pngChaos Monk Talk SignCoins 250.png 04:21, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Really Monk? Trigger happy? Really? I said I noticed for a week how often there were no ranked users, where is trigger happy coming from? And seeing the other comment from a month ago when another user was saying they would go in and see no ranked users. And in the CC people were saying the same thing.--Degenret01 05:44, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
I only say this because it isn't exactly changing a few words around in a rule. That was the only phrasing that came into my head, but I was caught off guard by this. Do I think that this is a bad idea? Not at all, Degen, but it should have had at least some mention in the Grove. That's all. Zaros symbol.pngChaos Monk Talk SignCoins 250.png 01:06, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - See RuneScape:Clan Chat/Ranked names. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 04:49, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Sure, this seems good. It would free up some spaces for future uses. (Old for new) Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 05:49, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Per all. bad_fetustalk 16:11, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Today I was the only ranked person for almost six hours (10AM GMT - 4:15PM GMT). We really need more European ranks. FredeTalk 17:36, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

I was on at that time along with two other nominee's for a Clan Chat rank. Swiz Talk Review Me 18:10, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
Comment - I can confirm this. I was also there. StRaTo x97 23:40, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - RS:RANKS is finished. There are currently 89 out of a possible 100 names on R S Wikia's Friends List, but several of those names are inactive admins. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 23:31, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Teng. Can we go with a policy of one ranked account per person? that would free up some space. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 00:09, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
It would free up more space if we deleted old names like Renardius and X1011. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 00:43, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Support - I agree with Jim teh Mage, we should also decide on the exact definition of "inactive" and how we go about trimming the list, something along the lines of what Dave proposed above. Also, what do we do if there is simply no space to return a rank to someone who becomes active again? --Quarenon  Talk 17:43, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

In a case like that, nothing can be done. Simple. We can't force c teng to pay for membership, and forcing someone else to lose rank just because an oldie comes back is wrong. XEOQWBucket detail.pngrwojy 00:46, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Although I'm not in the clan chat very often, it is an opportunity for other editors, who have been well-known in both the clan chat, and on the wiki to have a rank. It really helps them to deal with disruptive people. Fishing.png NnK Oliver (600613) talk 01:00, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion - I'm just worried about a retired user coming back to the cc to find his rank as gone, I'd be pretty angry. I'm happy to pay for one months membership for the CC account, if it opens up some extra spaces. Or maybe more months if we need it. Swiz Talk Review Me 16:55, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

If we need it, I dont think we need to fill all 15 slots as there might be more admins in the future, I don't think we need more then 5 ranks given out. A few to the Australian timezone at about.10 AM GMT and a few ranks given out to players in the GMT who are active at times like..now. Swiz Talk Review Me 17:10, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to try to jumpstart this, as 6 were recently closed as successful, bringing the total to 95!. We need to start deranking soon. I suggest anyone who hasn't logged into the wiki over the last 6-12 months be deranked. MNSKPMBucket detail.pngrwojy 06:54, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone who hasn't logged in to the wiki or to the CC? What's more useful for the CC, a regular who has lost his "rank" because he rarely edits the wiki, or someone who is active on the wiki but never uses his CC rank, because he never logs in? But then again, how can we know when someone last logged in to the CC? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 22:27, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
I don't think you can. See User:C Teng/Deleted names for an under-construction list of players that I plan on deleting from the R S Wikia Friends List. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 17:12, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
And you're sure that none of them has logged in to the CC in 6 months? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 11:28, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
That is impossible to determine, unless someone is in the cc 24 hours a day, every day, taking note of who longs in. Anyway, it is a necessity for old people to be removed, as c teng has hit the limit for friends. Unless anyone else has a viable option, people must be removed. WOKQMEBucket detail.pngrwojy 06:44, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
But what if these people turn out to be very active in the CC? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 09:46, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
I've been in the cc for quite a while, and haven't seen any of them. Also, my sleeping hours are varied, so I have been in the cc at every hour before. Does that qualify them as not being very active? QOLSBucket detail.pngrwojy 09:49, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Another suggestion - On the list of ranked users, I noticed that a lot of users have their pure/skiller/alternate accounts ranked as well. I propose that the ranks on users' alternate accounts are removed to save further space. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  07:39, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Agree - With sentry telos Magic-icon.png Supawilko 11:43, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Request for closure - Ranks aren't currently open, and it doesn't look like they'll be open again anytime soon. So, can we close this please? --LiquidTalk 22:42, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I won't close this just yet because there's still the issue of deranking some of our inactive ranked users. Does anyone oppose deranking the users listed in User:C Teng/Deleted names and secondary accounts? C.ChiamTalk 11:45, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

I've never even seen them in the cc. ♦Dragon platebody.pngCeno FlameTalk Contribs # SignDragon chainbody.png 21:04, February 24, 2010 (UTC)♦
Can we leave them a quick message on their talk page, just letting them know that we're removing them purely for space concerns, and if they want to be added to the CC list again, just let us know. That way everyone is in the know. Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 22:43, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
No objections, delete everyone on C Teng's list. Still keep this open please, to discuss my proposal of de-ranking pure/skiller/alternate accounts. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  04:49, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
What of ranking the new requests? Chicken7 >talk 05:12, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

Closed - Anything more that need be said on this topic is being fulfilled on another thread. This one died a month ago, so it is redundant to keep it open. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 16:02, March 28, 2010 (UTC)