Forum:Proposal of OSRS exclusive content page, similar to Nonexistence

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This thread was archived on 28 March 2015 by Liquidhelium.

If you look at Special:SearchDigest, you'll often find terms that are exclusive to OSRS. However, we do not cover them if they are OSRS exclusive, which is fine, although I think it would be better to redirect pages to something like a page called "Old School exclusive content", in a manner of how dragon shortsword redirects to Nonexistence. Plenty of people search for OSRS content, so I think this is something that needs to be addressed to make the experience of those users slightly better when searching OSRS exclusive content. Some pages are already covered, but they merely redirect to Old School RuneScape. Perhaps a pointer suggesting them to check their term out on the OSRS wiki on the proposed page? Ozank Cx 15:23, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

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Softredirect - Maybe with an extra note about it being OS-exclusive. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 15:26, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Soft redirects would require us to keep track of the correct article title on the OSRS wiki. Given the practice on this wiki to include redirects for all possible misspellings of the correct article title, the combination of those two things seems like a lot of annoyance to me. --Saftzie (talk) 18:42, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
Do article titles (read: in-game names) change frequently enough for this to be an issue?
Does the OS wiki not have redirects of their own?
On this wiki, if misspelling redirects are created, they should redirect to the associated correctly-named soft redirect, not all of them being a soft redirect. Also, we already have {{2007 page}} used widely, and {{07 redirect}} would function similarly. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 21:03, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
If they change even once, someone has to update something. It's a task that can only grow, never shrink. As for whether OSRS has its own redirects, etc., I don't think it matters. It's still scope-creep of this wiki that doesn't benefit this wiki even slightly. Put something on the front page linking to the OSRS wiki. ("If you're looking for content about Old School RuneScape, try the Old School RuneScape wiki.") Put something similar on the default search results page linking to the OSRS wiki. I think that's enough. --Saftzie (talk) 21:39, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Oppose - It isn't our duty to keep up with and cover the content by any means. They're on the wrong site, and it's simply not our problem. MolMan 15:30, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Oppose - osrsw:Category:Old School-exclusive content has over 300 pages, and it isn't the RuneScape 3 Wikis responsibility to keep up with content that belongs to the Old School RuneScape Wiki. Is it possible to have a page here directly redirect you to another wikis page? -- Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 15:56, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Nope. MolMan 15:57, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
[[w:c:a:User:Ozuzanna/Sandbox|Yes]] it's possible on other wikias (source). But I think the functionality is discontinued and they don't allow wikis to do that anymore, though I could be wrong about that.Ozank Cx 16:00, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
Whether it works appears to depend on the wiki. It works on some, but not on others. It's also possible to do it with JavaScript, even if a MediaWiki-style redirect doesn't work. This is only an explanation, not an advocation. --Saftzie (talk) 18:42, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
And we're not one of those wikis where it does. Who's #rekt now, Cook? MolMan 18:47, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
Because RSW haven't asked for it before is most likely why. Ozank Cx 18:53, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
There's an extension to enable it on wikis, so you don't need to emulate it with JS. Ozank Cx 18:53, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Oppose - The central point is "to make the experience of those users slightly better when searching OSRS exclusive content." The intention is nice, but (as I've stated above) it would require creating redirects for every such item and probably every possible misspelling of every such item. They're just on the wrong wiki, like if they were searching for OSRS content on the Smurfs wiki. Maybe we should just change "From the RuneScape Wiki, the wiki for all things RuneScape" to "From the RuneScape Wiki, the wiki for all things RuneScape 3" and be done with it. --Saftzie (talk) 18:42, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Also with the current redirects - Those just should not be created. They should be deleted again for the same reason the first set of OSRS redirects were deleted too. I'm not repeating my stance above, but regardless of the outcome of this discussion, simply redirecting all these terms to the OSRS page with 0 explanation is unhelpful. These current redirects shouldn't exist in their current form and they wouldn't remain this way no matter what passes here. MolMan 21:21, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Oppose creating any sort of redirect for content from Old School RuneScape. I think a note on the main page or on Old School RuneScape is enough. --Iiii I I I 22:11, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Comment - I don't see the harm in having some sort of landing page for the content, but I appreciate that 300+ redirects isn't something we want to implement or maintain. Why not have something to soft-redirect the reader to Special:Search on the OSRS Wiki with the searched page? It'd have to be something in JS to be able to access the URL for the requested page, but it avoids us having to increase our workload for something no directly related to this wiki's purview. cqm 00:39, 26 Feb 2015 (UTC) (UTC)

Oppose OSRS is updating more rapidly, and the games are diverging (yet in some ways converging) more and more. OSRS is truly it's own game.--Deltaslug (talk) 14:05, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Closed - An Old School RuneScape exclusive page will not be created on the RuneScape Wiki. --LiquidTalk 14:42, March 28, 2015 (UTC)