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This thread was archived on 2 November 2009 by Calebchiam.

Lately, I have been to the wiki's IRC channel, but there's usually one person (and ONLY one person) there besides me. Now, some of you may oppose this solely because IRC benefits users. But think about these two points:

  • IRC has not been very popular, with a record low amount of users in at one time.
  • IRC has not been very useful, since no admins have been on to summon RuneScript. I used to rely on this handy tool, but now that it's gone from the chat (again), it would be tiresome to continuously ask ranked users to bring it back.

Comments would be appreciated (also, for clarification, the last time I visited IRC was a while back).

EDIT: To clarify, this proposal is to remove the IRC link from the sidebar, or do whatever needs to be done to "deaden" the chat.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stinkowing (talk).

Alternative proposal - Why not reliven the chat instead of kill it? It used to be a very lively place; let's just encourage people to come back (btw, I'm talking about our freenode IRC, not the therswiki one). Butterman62 (talk) 01:12, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Support switching back to Freenode - IRC fell out of use once we split into two networks and it is confusing to many users to have two channels. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 01:28, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Never been a big fan of the irc, it seems to have been succeeded by clan chat anyway. Why beat a dead horse? Cap and goggles.pngTEbuddy 01:32, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Support - The dead. Ruud (talk)(Suggest me naems) 10:54, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Changing my vote, I feel that the IRC is still being used and enjoyed. Ruud (talk)(Suggest me naems) 12:21, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Support - I don't even know what it is, so I won't miss it. Miasmic Blitz icon.png Hapi007 Talk! Sign! . 10:59, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

That's not a reason. Learn what you're trying to get rid of before doing so. Christine 15:15, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
Urgh, that's why I don't contribute thát much to the Yew Grove. Miasmic Blitz icon.png Hapi007 Talk! Sign! . 15:39, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - but I support only using the one IRC network, freenode. Basically, with the channel being on the freenode network, where most wikia IRC channels are housed, it allowed for inter-wiki users joining. In addition, rswiki on freenode was advertised on the Wikia IRC Gateway dropdown, whereas the other one isn't advertised anywhere but here. But even if we keep both, what in the world is the harm in doing so...? Christine 15:15, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose it is certainly not hurting anything to have it open. I t would be like deleting all pages no one has looked at for 6 months. No reason to do that either.--Degenret01 15:54, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - there is no harm in keeping it and would only discourage those who do enjoy using IRC. Andrew talk 16:29, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Christine and TehKittyCat. The chatroom would be more convenient to use if it's hosted on the same network on which the official #wikia channel and most other wikia-based channels are hosted on. --Quarenon  Talk 18:22, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - So were going to count on users not active on this wiki to get IRC popular again? Doesn't sound like a good idea. Cap and goggles.pngTEbuddy 18:35, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, who cares how "popular" IRC is? Is it hurting anything or anyone by being linked in the sidebar? Andrew talk 22:34, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
Its just common sense to either remove or revamp things that are inactive from the main page. Why do you think websites like Google don't keep every project that doesn't stick on their list of services, its not hurting anyone to keep it there, so why don't they keep it? Why are you defending it? I don't mean to assume, but do you idle the IRC channel at all? Thats all I am saying, we are a website trying to get people to stick around and all we do by keeping a dead IRC in is show anyone who clicks on it that we either don't care or are just not active which if thats the first place they check for activity is not a good first impression. I also don't really understand the idea that using the network all of the other wikis use is going to fix anything. The original problem is having anyone at all idling in there to stir up some activity, why would some other guy from another wiki coming in and chatting it up do? It would also benefit our community navigation menu, people want to keep adding new things, so why not remove 3 spaces and use them for community projects that are active with editors from this wiki? Cap and goggles.pngTEbuddy 00:25, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - What would Christine do then? Wink

Bonziiznob Talk

01:43, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose/Question - Bonzii, what are you talking about? - Just because the irc room is empty most of the time does not make it useless. It can still be used for... things. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 09:26, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose/Comment - I think an IRC (or any live chat, for that matter) can be a vital source for assistance (Wikipedia has one). If a user needs live help with the RuneScape Wiki, where would they go to get it? The RuneScape Wiki clan chat? That's not always the best place: it requires the user to turn on the actual RuneScape game to access it, and once they are in the Clan Chat, their messages are severely limited in length/content (links, code, and certain words are censored out). I suggest somehow generating more interest in the IRC to make it more popular. (Maybe adding a link to the main page, directly to the Java client for those that don't have IRC, and perhaps labeling along the lines of 'Live RuneScape Wiki Help Chat' to stress that new users can get help, live). --  Nequillim  T C E   09:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - The RuneScape Wiki is not Wikipedia. Amethyst II Talk 11:48, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
That comment contributed absolutely nothing. Explain the purpose or don't say anything... Christine 18:01, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
The reason is that any argument based on the idea that Wikipedia has it or uses it does not make it more valid, so mentioning it in the first place doesn't mean anything.
If I hadn't've mentioned Wikipedia, it wouldn't've changed my statement. I was providing it as an example (Wookieepedia, WOWWiki, Uncyclopedia, and many other Wikia Wikis also have them, just as further examples). My main point was that Clan Chat has limitations that IRC doesn't have.--  Nequillim  T C E   22:42, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
There are currently 3 links to IRC on the left hand side navigation menu under the community section. IRC CGI, IRC java, and IRC help to get users started. I have used IRC in the past and still feel that it is overly complicated and too much work to either idle all the time or just pop in and out for a question or two when in game where people are usually always active in clan chat (not idling) will answer your questions. It seems to me once a project has reached the stage that no one volunteers to idle/ask questions, its pretty dead. I don't really follow this logic either, "Even though people have voluntarily abandoned it, lets try and get people in there to make it useful again". Cap and goggles.pngTEbuddy 17:31, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Why beat a dead horse? If people don't use it for some time, fine. But shutting it down beacuse we have a Clan Chat now seems like a ratherpointless gesture. Now that's a throwing weapon!Doucher4000******r4000I'll eat you! 20:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose, but support having only one channel - Per all. Freenode is the old wiki channel, right? If yes, support only using that one. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  03:58, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Freenode is the old wiki channel. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 14:19, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose, support one channel - I rarely come here very often but still might go to the old Freenode IRC to see if anyone is around. Rarely is there, but it'd be good if there was some people. Chicken7 >talk 13:44, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Freenode is returned to being the network now and IRC is more active than it had become over the year. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 23:16, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Although I haven't used Aye Are See in a while, its a great tool and it would defiantly be missed. I see no real reason to remove it just because its not heavily used. --Aburnett(Talk) 16:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Request for closure - As TehKittyCat said, IRC has been revived (to an extent) and Freenode is now the only network. This thread seems ready to wrap up. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  08:41, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Closed - The IRC will not be closed. C.ChiamTalk 08:43, November 2, 2009 (UTC)