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This thread was archived on 26 July 2009 by Azaz129.

Hello everyone, this month the RuneScape Businesses Wiki was launched. The general scope is to make finding and running businesses a whole lot easier as well as comparing competition and studying product populairty etc. Being another edition to the ever-expanding number of RuneScape Wikis (I'm describing the number of new RuneScape-related wikis) which the majority are partnered with via the main page, I would like to request that the wiki becomes partnered with RuneScape Businesses. It would increase traffic as I'm the only active user on there at the minute.

Many thanks for reading, Mr. Garrison 17:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

This sounds like a good idea for a wiki. It sounds like you're just getting things up and running. I would think letting people know, here, on the forums, and at all our sister sites, might help you get some editors to start building the site. However, I think this wiki has yet to really get going. You only have a few pages. I think before we make a formal partnership, lets see how this idea pans out. Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 22:18, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Sure, but spreading the news of it is a good idea, thanks! Mr. Garrison 22:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Kinda seems a bit redundant though. What actually is the purpose of it? I see nothing on your wiki that isnt already on this one. What is your aim? --Gold ore.png Mercifull UK serv.svg (Talk) 10:54, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
The wiki is for player made businesses. As of right now, there are no businesses, and the current articles have a connection to businesses. Since on this wiki, you can not make an article about your business, except on your userpage and its subpages, this is a place for those for businesses to post theirs. It's just like the clan wiki, but with businesses. ~MuzTalk 10:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I still don't see the point of it. I never understood how "businesses" and "companies" worked on Runescape with the advent of the Grand Exchange. I see them as reduntant. Opinion aside, surely it would be better for people to create a user subpage with a specific template and category so that people could see from this wiki? Category: Users with businesses which would then list pages such as User:Mercifull/Fishing Store for example. --Gold ore.png Mercifull UK serv.svg (Talk) 12:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not exactly sure how businesses in RuneScape work, but here's a thought: since the Grand Exchange has a limit to how many things you can buy at a time (for example, you can only buy 100 battlestaves from the Exchange every four hours), a business could sell battlestaves and other items to players without them worrying about the limit. This is just my thinking, though.  Tien  12:35, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Its sort of like the Runescape Clans wiki, only businesses instead of clans. A business could be say, producing yew logs. Instead of being limited by the Grand Exchange, the wiki could be used to negotiate in game trades. - 68.155.176.200 21:43, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Forgot to log in, sorry. - Hatake91 21:44, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I still feel it would be better people using user subpages to organise this rather than a seperate wiki. With the trade limits in place I fail to see the benefit for either party on a seperate wiki to conduct businesses.

Take yew logs as one example that someone suggested.

Player A chops 10,000 yew logs (at time of writing 460 gp each). Now Player A has a choice, he can either sell on the Grand Exchange and get 4.6m almost instantly (as the chart shows the price rising) or he can try to run a business. Player B wants to buy 10,000 yew logs and he also has a choice. Either he can try to buy them at mid price (which might take a while) or could buy them at max for 4.83m and get them instantly for an extra 230k. If Player B chose to get them from the business Player A then the most he could trade (providing both parties have done all the quests) is 4.66m which equates to 466 gp per log. The effort required to falicitate an ingame trade for such little difference in profit seems to me just a waste of time. Player A would be better off putting the logs in the GE for 467gp and waiting a few hours until they sold (70k profit over the GE mid price and 10k over the max player trade)

Runescape is a vastly different game than it used to be now we have the Grand Exchange and I feel that both buyers and sellers indulging in "businesses" are just wasting their own time and money. They are not viable long term options. I can see how there may be a market for certain types of goods such as battlestaves but lets be honest here... how many people are going to spent the time accumulating enough staffs in order to keep a business going beyond a day or two? I'm willing to bet its between slim and none.

Sorry to sound like the evil killjoy here but you are putting your precious time and effort into a lemon here and I would advise that you give up now and focus on other money making methods or carry on editing this wiki to help the community as a whole. --Gold ore.png Mercifull UK serv.svg (Talk) 13:43, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

But due to the limits on buying/selling items on the Grand Exchange, many players might wish to buy from a player to get all items at once, instead of having to wait for the limit to restart. ~MuzTalk 22:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
The limits do not affect raw items such as fish, ores and logs etc. Perhaps you can provide some examples of items which would be best suited to this. Two items for me spring to mind of garlic (for herblore) and battlestaffs (for crafting). However I don't see how these would be viable business options because their stock would sell out almost instantly to a small handfull of people and then the business would have to close down as they could not replenish stocks for the demand in time. --Gold ore.png Mercifull UK serv.svg (Talk) 09:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
The usefulness of making a "business" in runescape is different, in that your main income could be say, yew logs. Instead of making multiple offers on the exchange, you could simply have say, someone fletching yew logs to gain 99 fletching and have them constantly buy all you output. See what I'm saying? - Hatake91 23:18, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I never had a problem using the GE to get 99 woodcutting, firemaking or fletching. RS businesses seem to be a solution for a problem that doesn't exist --Gold ore.png Mercifull UK serv.svg (Talk) 20:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Businesses aren't supposed to be a solution for anything. They just want to help other players. Some of them can sell raw materials for less than the GE price, which will attract customers. I personally don't care about buying things for a little more as long as it's fast, but some players will do anything to get things for less.  Tien  12:40, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to sound rude here but lets be honest here... most people that run Runescape businesses are low levels. And I just cant understand why a low level would choose to sell to a player for less than they could get from the GE just seems stupid. If you wanna sell mass amounts of logs for less than the GE minimum then go right ahead, I'll buy them and pop em on the GE and make a nice profit. Cheers --Gold ore.png Mercifull UK serv.svg (Talk) 17:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, you've made some great points, and it's pointless to argue further. It was nice talking to you, though.  Tien  17:54, 24 April 2009 (UTC)