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This thread was archived on 28 February 2016 by Liquidhelium.

Boss monsters often have a giant switchfobox on their pages. Look at Zenevivia - she has four by herself, of which one for the Dominion Tower. Removing the DT from Barrelchest basically negates the need for a switchfobox altogether. Because of this, I want to suggest making separate Dominion Tower pages for each boss that appears within. A lot of bosses that appear within the Dominion Tower don't even have a separate switchfobox at the current time, nor a {{Dominion Tower}} navbox on their articles. It also makes it a bit easier to update if any changes are made to the Dominion Tower versions only, since you don't need to bury through 30 lines of switchfobox wiki-markup to find the one thing you want to change. User talk:ThePsionic.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:ThePsionic ThePsionic Special:Contributions/ThePsionic.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/ThePsionic 15:39, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

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Sure. --Jlun2 (talk) 16:18, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Sure - *Puts hands together* That can be arranged. (I'll add the navbox to the approriate pages.) Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 17:19, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Support - Navboxes will need to be changed accordingly too. Achievements Coelacanth0794 Talk Contribs 17:24, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Of course :) Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 17:53, February 22, 2016 (UTC)
Navbox has been cleaned up (code wise) and the navbox now links to articles that have the navbox. Some joined pages still need to made though, e.g. Colonel Grimsson and Hreidmar together as "Chaos Grimsson and Hreidmar". Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 14:13, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Support - they are a unique instance compared to their quest counterpart. plus they are subject to the rules of the Tower (so you might have situations where the quest strategy can't be used on the Tower variant because you can't use an ability or something) --Deltaslug (talk) 19:11, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Oppose - Seems like a pointless inconvenience to readers. One of the purposes of switchfoboxes is exactly this, and any differences in rules of the fight can be easily covered in a small paragraph if necessary, that hardly warrants a new page. That said, usage of nav- and switchfoboxes does need to be made more consistent. Also relevant, note that joint bosses such as Khazard and Lucien or Damis, Fareed, Kamil and Dessous have their own pages in addition to the extra infoboxes on the individual bosses' articles. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 20:46, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Which begs the question, why are Dominion Tower items separated, then? Granularity isn't a bad thing. User talk:ThePsionic.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:ThePsionic ThePsionic Special:Contributions/ThePsionic.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/ThePsionic 21:51, February 22, 2016 (UTC)
Good question. I don't think they should be. Really, saying 'A copy of [item] is also provided in [relevant DT fight] and [additional comment].' suffices. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 14:12, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Support - Granularity surrounding NPCs is pretty stupid. Too much merging. MolMan 21:52, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Neutral - It would make things much tidier, but arguably at an inconvenience to the reader. Surely people are more interested in a monster's Dominion Tower stats (since they're repeatable) over their one time only quest stats? Adventurer's log Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon.png 22:45, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Ben. --dDbvitC.pngScuzzy Betahib8CAd.png 16:28, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Comment - Make the main page without brackets about DT, and the quest version <name> (Quest). Because honestly who the hell even looks at those pages anymore? Quick guide all the way! --Jlun2 (talk) 22:01, February 24, 2016 (UTC)
muh lore text walls! Korasi's sword.png Archmage Elune  TalkHS Void knight deflector.png fetus is my son and I love him. 22:12, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Closed - Dominion Tower versions of combat NPCs can be separated from the other versions. --LiquidTalk 19:26, February 28, 2016 (UTC)