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This thread was archived on 21 February 2018 by JaydenKieran.

Today the Mining and Smithing rework beta was opened - this thread is to decide how we cover the beta.


Proposal: The basics of the beta itself (i.e. the mechanism of joining, the location it is, etc) should be covered on a general page about it - like Evolution of Combat beta. This page should also cover the mechanics of the skills (how stuff works, differences to live, etc).


There are 382 new, non-dummy items in the beta. As a quick summary of why so many, the primary reason is that there are 4 new tiers of equipment, each with 10 items. Most of these - as well as the same items in existing tiers - can be upgraded up to 5 times (+1 -> +5 with increased bonuses). Several tiers can also be upgraded once more to a decorated version, which cannot be equipped but can be turned in for bulk Smithing XP.

I have divided up the items into the following categories:

  • Exclusive new items without upgrades: 56
  • Upgraded versions of the new items: 160
  • New versions of existing items: 25
  • Upgraded versions of existing items: 91
  • Decorated items: 50

At time of writing I have created basic pages for the 56 exclusive new items.

This leaves us to decide:

  • Merge or split upgraded items - and to do that for the beta, or wait for it to become live
    • Merge or split decorated versions
  • Cover absolutely everything about every item, or just basics
  • Make /beta pages about live items, covering the new versions in the beta

Proposal: I am a little undecided, but I think this will suffice for now:

  • Cover upgraded items on the base item page for now - revisit this closer to when the rework is going to go live to consider granularity more strongly
    • Split decorated, as they are more different than +2 is from +1.
  • Make /beta subpages for live items and treat them similarly to the new items.
  • Cover as much as possible - consider making some templates for displaying progress/materials needed with each upgrade, etc

NPCs and objects

Proposal: There aren't many NPCs, and they're mostly vendors, so they can really just be covered exactly like EoC beta NPCs. Objects - like the rocks and new hopper - should be covered similarly.


Proposal: Take images of everything, as much as possible! We don't get many - if any - opportunities to have in-game images of WIP stuff like this. (Aside: I kinda like the weird, flat-colour, textureless armour.)


Proposal: All pages (and images) about exclusive content should be added to an appropriate category, say Category:Mining and Smithing rework.


Support all proposals as nominator. Note that this should be a somewhat quicker thread since the beta isn't indefinite. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 22:29, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

FYi, Mining and Smithing beta. ;) Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 22:45, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

Support all props - As such, There is also a Template:Infobox beta for use on things. Twig Talk 772kZGs.png 22:31, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

Infobox beta is only for the beta pages themselves, since everything else already has an infobox of their own, e.g. Template:Infobox NPC, Template:Infobox Item, and Template:Infobox scenery. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 22:45, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

Support all proposals, but - I'd suggest calling the category Mining and Smithing rework with 'and' instead of the ampersand. :P Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 22:45, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

Support all Proposals - Concerning the different +Items, I think for the beta it is enought to put them on the base item page but for the final rework they will have to get their own page --Srylius (talk) 22:59, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

Comment - The existing pages that I could find now have the {{Mining and Smithing rework}} navbox which transcludes the category. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 23:57, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

Support and Comment - Perhaps the +1, +2, etc. versions can be covered by a switch box, in the same manner as different dosages of potions? But with a completely separate page for decorated versions -- F-Lambda (talk) 00:49, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Support all proposals - Pernix cowl detail.png MAGE-KIL-R (Talk)Zaros symbol.png 12:19, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Comment - Is there a way to turn the Recipe template into a switch box template? Because if there is a way the upgraded versions would fit nicely on the item base page. Srylius (talk) 12:45, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Comment - if it is at all helpful User:Suity has kindly given permission for anyone to use any of his data about the beta for the wiki (you can find it here). Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 13:15, February 15, 2018 (UTC)

Closed - All of Gaz's proposals will be implemented. jayden 03:18, February 21, 2018 (UTC)