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This thread was archived on 5 January 2013 by Spineweilder.

Greetings. I'll keep it short. I propose that we merge all off-hand versions of items onto their mainhand pages (Off-hand bronze dagger to bronze dagger). Frankly, the off-hand versions of weapons are exactly the same as the mainhand versions, except for:

  • The inventory icons and maybe examines or something like that. Switch infobox, problem solved.
  • If there is a difference in the way they are obtained (for example, one is a rare monster drop, the other can be smithed or something), this could easily be added in an extra paragraph.

Per RS:G, the items deserve to be split, but there really isn't any point in having two pages about the same item, the only difference being that one is held in another slot (we could even make an infobox parameter saying whether the item has an off-hand version or not). Discuss. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 08:54, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Oppose -- They're just separate items. Sold separately, obtained separately, obviously worn separately. There's too much going on to merit a merge. ʞooɔ 08:58, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - They are far from "exactly the same." Their stats differ, the image almost always is different, examines are different, the ways to obtain are often different (offhands aren't obtained through monster drops), the prices are far different. Really no point to merge, just put a link to the counterpart at the top of the page. Law rune.png Samberen Nature rune.png 09:03, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Stats, image, examines and prices: switch infobox. Way to obtain: add extra paragraph. Done. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 09:07, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
Add in what's stated below and it's a bit more of a problem than it is a fix, even if it can be done. Law rune.png Samberen Nature rune.png 09:18, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
Just because something can conceivably be done, that doesn't make it a good idea. ʞooɔ 09:31, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - Won't this mess up itemcompare? What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 09:05, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - Too many differences (examine, images, prices), and would also wreck the item compare thing featured in the bonuses template, as Ciph pointed out. The item compare can't be fixed with the switch infobox, as the item compare feature gets the title of the item from the page title, so searching for bronze dagger would bring up two results. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 09:08, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - They're not the same; they are two entirely separate items, and that won't justify a merging of the two. -- Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 16:29, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - Insert rephrased comment here. Hair 17:01, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Oppopopose - Differences! — Jr Mime (talk) 17:03, January 5, 2013 (UTC)


This request for closure is complete A user has requested closure for Merge off-hands onto mainhands. Request complete. The reason given was: Okay. I hadn't considered item compare tbh, and I can't think of any quick way to bypass the problem with it that would arise as a result of the merge, without altering the base code of the thing, which would probably ruin everything and drive Cook to Grayzag-adjacent madness, so this is the perfect time for a tactical retreat

User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 17:58, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Close - Mainhands will not be merged with off-hands, or vice versa. -- Recent uploads SpineTalkGuest book 18:22, January 5, 2013 (UTC)