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This thread was archived on 15 April 2011 by Liquidhelium.

Hi all,

Recently the proposal to add portal pages has passed, and an important part of these portal pages is the slider. With this slider you can easily highlight pages of importance, such as new quests/updates and pages that need some attention.

As these sliders look awesome, and are a great way to attract our huge audience to a certain article/event, I think these would be a great addition to our main page. We would be able to add our newest (quest)guide to the slider, a link to our calculator page and most of all the upcoming event teams event. And naturally these “featured” articles will change over time (though a fixed spot for the ET would be nice).

So what I suggest is that we add a main page slider at the same position as [[w:c:halo:Main Page|this slider]] so our introduction is still on top, yet the audience is still able to see it (it’ll be a bit higher as we don’t have such a large about section)

Discuss below! Mark (talk) 17:46, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - Obvious reason. Mark (talk) 17:46, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Leaning toward Oppose - Yes, it looks good, but the main page is a mess at the moment. The slider is considerably large, and even a small addition to the left hand column would break the camel's back. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 18:43, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

IMO [[Portal:Main_Page_Example]] doesn't look very messy. There's just this ugly space at the bottom right.
We could increase the amount of total tips to 2 so it will fit.
This means we need either a new box, discontinue UOTM as suggested in a different Yew Grove thread or leave the open spot there. Mark (talk) 19:17, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
How about removing the ET box and Featured Article box and having both of those in the slider instead? sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 20:39, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
I don't see any sliders D:   Swizz Talk   Events!   21:25, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Support - If the mainpage is messy, let's fix it up... The link you provided doesn't work, so I assume you mean the Halo Wiki? If so, that looks cool. Seems like it'd be nice and consistent with our Portal pages. Also, adding nearest ET event to it would be awesome. (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 18:50, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Mark (talk) 19:17, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Support - Looks greaaaat! But more importantly, an excellant way to advertise events. Wink   Swizz Talk   Events!   19:11, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

...but... then the images for the event ads have to be uploaded to the wiki. There's no other way to make it work (except if anyone is in for some scripting to make the thing duplicate'able with host images, which I don't think) JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 22:22, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
So? A sysop has already told me I could upload the ET banners I make to the wiki, so I don't think it'll be a problem. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 22:35, March 17, 2011 (UTC)
Ohhhhhh a sysop said it! I thought it was just another user, but if an admin said it it's okay. They, of course, know exactly what the community will think of hosting so many non-content images before there has been any discussion about it. I didn't know a sysop said it is okay. Sorry. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 00:24, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
I mean, others might disagree, but I think we should leave that hurdle until after this proposal passes or fails. (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 01:24, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
No need to be a dick, Joey.   Swizz Talk   Events!   18:21, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it's good to have the wiki filled with all kinds of banners, but okay then, I'd find it okay if the banners get deleted after the event is over (not kept on the event's archive or something) as that way we'll just be filled more and more with images
/me points zwis @ 3rd section thar. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 23:24, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
read the first section. --Iiii I I I 00:14, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
...What's wrong with uploading images for the RuneScape Wiki's Events Team to the wiki? --Iiii I I I 01:31, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Support - Looks great! Maybe the main portals could then be advertised there, and from there the other portals could be reached. This would make navigation across the wiki quite some bit better I think. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 22:22, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wait a minute... - I've read this twice and I still can't figure out what a slider is. Can someone be a bit more specific? --LiquidTalk 00:27, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

This should help! ɳex undique 00:56, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
The picture thingies that move and stuff. ;3= sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 01:24, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Strong oppose - Requires javascript which means it can screw up (I'm sure you've seen rs main page screw up) and can fail in monobook. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 03:28, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Please elaborate on how it could "screw up" anything. Furthermore, what resolution are you using? It works fine at both my 23' and 14' monitors at Monobook. Mark (talk) 14:06, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
Fail to load something from the js (you can't tell me that never happens on wikia) and 10.4' netbook at the time. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 21:28, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
Honestly, JS never failed on me... And seriously: look at these stats... Mark (talk) 21:55, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
Remember the beta back in August, September and October? JavaScript failed often then and it occasionally does these days depending on one of two scripts. The CavalryLogger (FaceBook Connect) or various advertisements. Ryan PM 15:40, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - Enormous bandwidth suck for no extra functionality. Bad web design to make your front page require so much extra load time. --Saftzie (talk) 04:21, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

How much load time exactly? Mark (talk) 14:06, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - Let us deal with the mess with the main page properly first, instead of arbitrarily removing things and adding stuff. It'll just turn the main page into an un-organised heap. 222 talk 05:21, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - While I don't want to oppose for the sake of me not liking it, I do have an issue with it. It has 4 corners, which goes against the rest of the boxes which have curved corners on 3 of their 4 sides. If the slider could have edges that match the design of the other boxes, I would support. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 22:14, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Add to the CSS:
.wikiaPhotoGallery-slider-body img, .wikiaPhotoGallery-slider-body .description-background {border-radius:10px;-moz-border-radius:10px;}
.wikiaPhotoGallery-slider-body .nav img {border-radius:0;-moz-border-radius:0;}
Or if only certain sliders should have border-radius:
.sliderbradius .wikiaPhotoGallery-slider-body img, .wikiaPhotoGallery-slider-body .description-background {border-radius:10px;-moz-border-radius:10px;}
.sliderbradius .wikiaPhotoGallery-slider-body .nav img {border-radius:0;-moz-border-radius:0;}
and then place <div class="sliderbradius"> around the slider to give it border radius, and don't to let it be how it is now. Of course the border-radius could always be changed (don't change the border-radius in the 2nd line of both codes) to something that fits better, but this is just the code needed to change the border-radius to 10px. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 23:24, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Neutral - I thought having a slider would increase functionality by reducing scrolling back in late December with a failed project I tried. However not everyone was on board with the idea and thus was deleted for all but the forums module. The only issue I find is that the slider doesn't function on legacy skins or the mobile platforms last I checked (Wikiaphone and Wikiaapp skins). Ryan PM 15:40, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Could be that it doesn't function there, though that probably means the slider won't show up so the mainpage will still look fine. The slider functions properly on my HTC Desire, which uses the default weblayout. Mark (talk) 17:08, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Strong Oppose - Looking at [[Portal:Main Page Example]], it looks like an unorganized heap that goes on and on forever. Furthermore, the slider takes up a lot of space and does little. Yes, the sliders look cool in and of themselves, though I think this will only make the state of the main page worse. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 19:02, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

An unorganised heap that is clearly organised into separate sections? Also what's wrong with the main page having a lot of stuff on it? It's the main page, it should have stuff on it. --Henneyj 19:45, March 26, 2011 (UTC)
Because if there's too much stuff on it, nobody will read any of it. There needs to be a balance. Having the slider forces users to scroll down to see the news section, which can be a major problem. It's the thread that connects us to our readers. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 23:58, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
Well I disagree with the need to have less stuff on the main page, and I know very few homepages that require no scrolling to cover all of its content. I do however agree that the most important stuff should be near the top - so that it's visible immediately - and so the slider may be seen as a problem in that sense. --Henneyj 07:28, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Possible support - I don't actually care too much about it, and the js thing may be an issue as raised. For me the main issue is: what would we use it for? The best answer I could come up with is new updates. As everyone knows we get more visitors after an update, and a great number will be looking for content on said update. A great big whopping slider would be useful in this respect (as well as easy on the eye), and I suppose it would be similar to the RS homepage slider in this. However, I believe I'm right in saying that the slider requires the use of a picture to go with a slide, which may be difficult for a new update. Furthermore the slider is realistically not the only way to perform the function of "advertising" a new update (although we really don't do this well enough currently). If we can guarentee a way of getting up a slide immediately after update, possibly through a preprepared image or a generic "update" image, then I support. Obviously, there are multiple slides, so slides of various interesting things would also be used, but without a quick update reaction of "we have new stuff, come and look!" is there I don't feel it could be justified. --Henneyj 19:45, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

I was in a weird mood when I wrote this. --Henneyj 21:34, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - There is no consensus to add a slider at this time. --LiquidTalk 03:21, April 15, 2011 (UTC)