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This thread was archived on 5 October 2009 by Azliq7.

As some of you may know, the RuneScape Wiki is in need of a new main page design to improve its search engine results. With the help of az's suggestions and ElfAnurin's link button images, I have put together a potential new design, which you can see here. The most notable changes are the addition of image link buttons and a decrease in the number of links.

The image link buttons accomplish two things - (1) they make the main page more appealing and easier to navigate, and (2) they give a higher level of importance to the pages linked to, which should always be the most popular/most searched for topics.

The reason for fewer links is because having a lot of links can "dilute" the main page, causing its search engine rank to suffer. Keeping the number of links on the main page to a minimum by removing all non-essential links can have a very positive effect on the search rank. If there are any links still on the test page that you feel aren't necessary, please say so. Another thing that has a diluting or weakening effect on search rank is multiple links to the same page. So every main page link should link to a different page.

Please take a look at User:JoePlay/mainpage and give your constructive feedback. I know ElfAnurin has also been working on a new design, so I also look forward to his ideas as well.

We all have the same goal, which is to maximize the RuneScape Wiki's visitors and contributors by improving its search engine ranking, while keeping a design that is easy for the community to navigate. So let's get the ball rolling so we can start reaping the benefits of a new and improved main page in the very near future. =) JoePlay (talk) 20:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I've come up with a design 4 weeks ago, and it received some support. Since then I also found a solution to reduce the number of links where our pagerank can leak to.

So there are 2 design available now.[1] [2] - There are some differences between them and I'd like to hear which parts of each design you prefer over the other. When this discussion comes to an end we could merge these 2 together in one. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 12:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

14 July Update: Please submit your comments/feedback now if you haven't already.

28 July Update: Enough feedback has been collected. Merged design will be ready by friday 01/08.

Collecting feedback on the designs Merged design Feedback on finishing touches Beta Page goes Live!


Comment - Looking good so far. I just have a few things I would like to point out that, to me, would appear better.

  1. The picture buttons that link to the different main articles, I feel that the bottom row being centered would appear better looking.
  2. The developers blog and patch notes headings are not aligned. Having them aligned will look more professional.

I understand that appearance does not matter to a Google crawler, but to me as a viewer, it would look better. ~MuzTalk 21:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Joe changed the design in an attempt to improve the keywords. They now contain words such as Locations,Quests,Skills,Minigames,Armour,Weapons,Bestiary. Now tell me, who would ever google for Locations,Armour, Weapons or Bestiary? Azliq earlier came up with Meta Keyword extension which I think would be of more help then the current keywords - even on both designs! I'd like to see keywords like Sword, Godsword, Platebody, Shield, Guide, Money Guide, Cash, Monster, NPC, City, Village to be added. It would greatly improve the keywords and its not gonna improve unless we install that extension. And I prefer my design over Joe's but I've made it myself so yeah lol :P Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 12:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

The changes I made to the design were to improve the wiki's google rank, which involves more than just keywords, as I explained in the original post. JoePlay (talk) 18:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I prefer ElfAnurin's design too, but I would like those keywords in there too. I'll help with the extension if admin tools are needed.

Bonziiznob Talk

14:19, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - i like very much the first one from ElfAnurin. 5 stars for it.Rune kiteshield (Guthix).png trimm Talk Rune scimitar detail.png 16:26, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I've combined both designs, and added some minor changes of my own, especially with the colours. It is now colour-coded based on the section. (green for "Featured" sections, blue for "News" sections, etc.) I'm going to invite anyone to make changes to improve on the design. Instead of choosing the best design and implementing it, it would be better if we let users experiment with the design. This is why I choose a neutral location, RuneScape:Main Page, to place the new design. Happy editing! Smile   az talk   17:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

That could turn out in an edit war. And if not then there's still ppl who aren't pleased with some1 elses edits. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 22:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Why would it become an edit war? Being a wiki, anyone should be able to edit a page. Since the Main Page is fully protected most of the time, doing this gives the chance for any users to modify and improve the page before it is finalised. If someone is displeased with an edit, they should leave a message at the talk page, and explain the reason for their displeasure.   az talk   22:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Because for example I don't like the colours, I would change them now and then some1 changes it back because he liked the bright colours better. You've just opened up a 3rd design where people have to discuss about aswell. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 22:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Does colour really matter to improve the pagerank? The key issue here is search engine optimisation.   az talk   23:01, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Key issue is search engine optimisation?? Design has nothing to do with this discussion? Rip everything off the mainpage then and put as many keywords about runescape as you can. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 23:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I was wondering if we could add a new section to the main page for weekly events. We were thinking about doing so here. But perhaps we need more comments there before doing anything, however...  Tien  17:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

LOL, I've added it anyways just to see how it looks.   az talk   18:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Oo, looks good. Could you leave it there for now? I'll direct the others to the draft of the new main page to see whether they like it.  Tien  18:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Never mind, you've already done that.  Tien  18:56, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - This is the first time I've looked at User:ElfAnurin/Main Page (I had only looked at some sandbox type page that had multiple versions using different sizes for the image buttons). I noticed that Elf's overall design is very similar to the design I presented. So if people prefer his design, I say use it, but some minor changes (links) will need to be made before going live with it. Like I mentioned, minimizing the number of links on the main page by removing the non-essential links will maximize the wiki's google rank. So where can we do this?

Starting from the top of the left column:

  1. link to MMORPG needs to be removed. If you feel that it's necessary to explain what a MMORPG is, link to it from RuneScape, not the main page as this weakens the google rank.
  2. link to Help:Editing from "that anyone can edit!" needs to be removed. The help pages are already linked to in 2 other locations - the toolbox and the word "Help" in the line that's currently 2 lines below this one.
  3. link to Special:Statistics from "11,512 articles" needs to be removed. This is a non-essential/non-content link that also weakens google rank
  4. link to 8 April from "8 April 2005" needs to be removed. See #3 for reason.
  5. the line that includes "Help • Getting Started • About • Policies • Terms of Use • Style Guide • FAQ • Disclaimer" needs to be moved to the bottom of the page with the RuneScape copyright info. Having those links at the top gives importance to them, and these links weaken the google rank because they link to pages that RuneScape players do not search for.
  6. all links included in "Other languages" and "Sister Sites" both need to be removed. They are both already linked in both the Monaco and Monobook versions of the sidebar. See #3 for additional reason.
  7. link to Minigames under "More popular articles:" needs to be removed since it's already linked to from the image button.
  8. any links under "More popular articles:" that aren't absolutely necessary should be removed. An easy way to determine what the important links are is to see Special:Mostvisitedpages. I would suggest that any page that is not listed there (using the default listing of the top 50) should also not be linked to from the main page, such as Guilds, Achievement Diaries, Emotes, Music, Holiday rewards, etc.
  9. link to RuneScape Forums needs to be removed. Anyone searching for the official RuneScape forums will obviously see a link to them in the #1 spot on google.
  10. link to Updates from "Recent RuneScape News" needs to be removed. A main page link to a page containing the definition of an update/patch is non-essential.
  11. the link to [[Template:News]] from "Add some news" needs to be removed. I'm sure that all (or at least most) of the people adding news are admins that already know where to do so.
  12. the links to User:Dr5ag2on1 under Recent Wiki News should be removed for 2 reasons. (1) It links to the same page twice, which is a no-no, and (2) stating the person who gave the promotion is irrelevant - only the person receiving the promotion is important as far as the main page is concerned.
  13. any links to dates (day, month, year) need to be removed (box at top of right column). They weaken the google rank.
  14. in the Poll box, the link found in "Results of previous poll: (Poll results)" needs to be removed, because the entire results are listed right there in the Poll box.

Once these non-essential main page links are taken care of, I'd say you guys are good to go. =) JoePlay (talk) 18:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm quite blown away by that comment. If you add the link attribute rel=nofollow to a link then google doesn't go there. I'd like to test that method to see how it influences the pagerank before we remove half of the links. And can some1 install that metakeywords extension? Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 22:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Only Wikia staff can install extensions. It is still in the experimental stage, and I think this is why Wikia is reluctant to install the extension.
See   az talk   22:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Az, and the bottom line is we need to link to the most important content on the site, no extension tricks, just fewer links. Danny's post on keywords does a great job of explaining the details. I'm excited to see the new page! -- Doug<staff /> (talk) 23:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Quite remarkable that the World of Warcraft wiki ends up so high in the google search engine with their 800 links. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 23:45,

29 June 2009 (UTC)

Quit remarkable that you completely ignore Danny's post in the other thread, and the fact that wow has almost quadruple the player base that Runescape does. Cap and goggles.pngTEbuddy 03:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
\ Are you talking about the muppets? I read it but didn't ignore. No wonder it ends up higher in google without the gold selling muppet sites. Lol And are you saying that the size of a player base matters to a search engine? Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 09:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Dannys post [3] and that if you have several hundred thousand more people searching for something (as in wow wiki) its going to get a higher page ranking. Cap and goggles.pngTEbuddy 20:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok after reading it over and over I agree on most points that have been proposed. I disagree with point 5 and 10. In the last case I will move the link Updates near Patch notes. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 21:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I support the removal of all links mentioned by joe. No need for em --Serenity1137 07:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I Support the new page. It just looks nicer and has more things on it. I especially like the weekly events.Rune 2h sword.pngAjihad282Teh talk - U wants 2 borrow? 11:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I Support. I prefer the ElfAnurin version with the two rows of picture buttons rather than one row (which is smaller). I'm not going to wade into the "number of links" debate reference search engines since I really have no idea.--Quest point cape.png Friedrich V Defence cape (t).png 13:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
The reason the icons were made smaller is that they appear too big in smaller resolution browsers. For example, using screen resolution 1024x768 in Monobook skin, the icons in ElfAnurin's version appear in 3 rows, rather than 2. And the icons fill up the entire screen.   az talk   15:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Azliq, how many people use a Monobook skin on a resolution of 1024x768? Is it worth it to change the design just for them? Do 100x100px icons really effect the main page in a bad way? It certainly does not fill up the entire screen..(see table) Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 17:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it is worth changing the design to suit as many users as possible. We shouldn't marginalise any users based on their Wiki skin preferences, or their screen resolution. I believe that since all editors are equal, all editors should not be left out of the equation.   az talk   19:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I prefer elf's. It is smoother and better set out. Also the colours are better and less dull. But the weekly events feature would be a good addition. --Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 18:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Also, Jack Spiral and I were thinking about putting the newspaper in the sidebar under "Community." I would do it myself, but I'm not sure if we should.  Tien  14:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that is necessary at the moment. The project has not been "fully" approved by the community. Although the decision was to keep it, many were against the idea. The newspaper team have to convince the community that the newspaper is up to mark, before we can actually add it to the sidebar. At least that is what I think.   az talk   15:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Az. Andrew talk 15:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Kk, thanks for the input.  Tien  16:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I think the 'On this day...' section on those four images is too big. I think it's too wide. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 19:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we can change it because that column has a set width and contains Wikia's ads of 300px wide. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 19:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh okay. I'll live with it, haha. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 20:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I personally prefer the design at RuneScape:Main_Page. The design looks professional, is concise, and accessible with few non-essential links. In addition, key information is presented in the center while less essential information is relegated to the side, such as the featured user section.

ElfAnurin's design on the other hand, with all due respect, only changes the visual aspects of the page slightly (ie: round corners instead of square) and overall isn't that different from what we currently have; moreover I don't see a decrease in link count in ElfAnurin's design which I assume is a large step (and primary reason for a new main page) towards better search rankings. Arthur6687 23:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

What do you think about the colours of the tables? Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 23:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I like the colors on both designs. Nice on the eyes, fits the monaco skin, and doesn't detract from the information. I've gotten the impression the blue ones are more essential information than the green ones, as well, at least on the RuneScape:Main_Page design. The other design has a different color for every section or something. Arthur6687 07:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I actually like RuneScape:Main_Page. It looks much better, it is simpler, and more professional.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jarl444 (talk) on 09:43, 2 July 2009.

RE:Which parts make it look better? Specify please. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 10:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Comment - I also prefer the RuneScape:Main_Page. The boxes featuring 'On this day' and 'Featured article' etc look good, because of the... circle corners (You know what I mean?) Miasmic Blitz icon.png Hapi007 Talk! Sign! . 14:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
RE: But on all designs it has round corners? Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 14:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Comment - Neither of the actual designs have rounded corners. Click on page, not image. RS:MP is boring, the design of elfs is alot more lively.--Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 18:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
That depends on the browser type. Based on the current style, only Firefox will display rounded corners, while other browsers (such as Internet Explorer) will not. See   az talk   18:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
With no offense intended, I believe 2+2 is going on the wrong trail of thought here. RuneScape Wiki can be thought of as an informational encyclopedia of everything (or, well, almost everything) RuneScape. The page, and especially the main page, should thus emphasize the information rather than the visual bang, or "liveliness" as you put it. Elf's design, while surely visually stunning, is all over the place with colors and the big buttons will indeed cover up the more-important text on smaller resolutions. RuneScape:Main_Page addresses that concern by using smaller buttons, a single color for each category/table/box based on informational worth to the average RuneScape user (blue for essential, green for less-essential is the impression I've gotten), and in addition also reduces the overall number of links on the main page which I believe is the main reason why this discussion is even going on in the first place. The main page should aim for conciseness and neatness, rather than liveliness and general information overload. Arthur6687 21:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
People are more likely to go more into the wiki if our face image is better.--Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 15:33, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I like first one much better than the second. Firstly the second page's "Contents" box is going to be very problematic. Who decides what gets added there? There's way too much about RuneScape to give everything a fair representation in such a small contents box. Secondly, the nav buttons are too small for their importance. These are meant to function as the gateway to the rest of the Wiki aren't they? In the second one they look like a banner or some kind of advert.

That is not to say that the first one is perfect. It has a few problems as well. The first one I noticed is the nav buttons. The "Skills" button shows skill icons. This is very cartoony and flat when compared with the other images shown, which all show game screenshots. I think if anything this button should show people USING the skills, like someone fishing or mixing a potion. The "Weapons" button is very empty compared with the other images. You should either add more weapons or players using the weapons. The "Guides" button has a bunch of question marks and exclamation points floating around. I feel this is too literal. It should be more subtle without being too obscure. Some more tutors migh be nice. As for the Bestiary button, I don't think it should be just one monster. It'd be very visually pleasing to see a very large monster (like TzTok-Jad), a medium sized monster, and a small monster.

Another slight issue is that the "Featured image" and "Featured article" sections are pushed up against the side. They should appear side by side underneath the Nav buttons similar to how they appear in the current main page. This will give them the attention they deserve while pushing the polls button up more, so the poll gets more attention as well. If doing so makes the page too tall, then the Patch Notes and Dev Blog sections could be moved to where the Featured Image and Featured Article originally were.

One other thing I notice that could be slightly distracting is that the headers have different colors. They should all be the same color, or they should be more unified. For instance, every header in the center column should be the same color, and every header on the right side should be a different yet similar color.

Lastly, I think the first column in the more popular articles list should be indented slightly to the right, it doesn't look very good smushed up against the left border. </feedback>
kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 15:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

comment Interesting new design. I generally like the approach as it removes most of the classic wiki look and feel. Will the new round box style extend to the left hand menus as well? Or are you contemplating an even more ambitious update to move this part to some form of drop down menu's? Miw 19:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

comment i think elves design is better as there are more easy reachable buttons in front, and better stocked.timbogaertlol 09:12 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I request that a Weekly Events section be added to all designs at it is on RuneScape:Main Page --— Enigma 08:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

All changes will be shown on the merged design after everyone posted their feedback. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 08:49, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Well, both JoePlay's and ElfAnurin's designs look nice -- when the screen is maximized. Usually when I'm on runescape, I have that window to the right, and the Rs Wiki page to the left. One of the most important things for me would be having the ability to scroll left and right on the main page. When the window is resized, both of the designs squish together. That, I think would be my only issue concerning both of them.


Concerning the actual design, though, I'd lean towards ElfAnurin's page.

I like how the popular articles are grouped.

I like the green title header for the recent wiki news.

On JoePlay's design, I like the "on this day" feature and I think that should be on the main page because it's an interesting piece of trivia.


What I don't like are some of the pictures chosen to link to said articles.

The globe of runescape definitely looks professional and all but it just gives off some creepy vibe for me.

The skills picture does look rather plain but I suppose that gets to the point of what it links to.

And sure, like someone said above, the main page is meant to be more about information than looks, but really. Who would go to a site that looks bland and unappealing? I wouldn't. We already have great content and the pictures aren't overwhelming it. If anything, the pictures would compliment and the content would be running the show. Overall, both of the proposals are very nice and regardless of the outcome they should be thanked for taking the time to make these.  Panjy16 08:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Just pointing out that both of these designs seem to suffer from the same contrast issues that I mentioned in this thread. Here are previews of both pages in the Gaming theme: RuneScape:Main Page and User:ElfAnurin/Main Page. --Quarenon  Talk 03:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment on JoePlay's design - I'm not sure if I am the only one experiencing it, but on the developers' blog and patch notes, the title doesn't look aligned. Developers' blog is a bit higher than the patch notes. I also Support ElfAnurin's design. It looks quite different from the current one and the changes looks real nice. Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 14:30, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Just a quick reminder to all: We have 3 designs: Elf's, JoePlay's, and the one in RuneScape:Main Page which is similar to JoePlay's.

Comments on "RuneScape:Main Page"

Firstly, I like how the headers were given a more unified color scheme. I liked particularly how RuneScape News was cyan, and all the subheadings were a lighter shade of cyan. An issue I still have is that the Notable Pages, Current Date, and Opinion Poll sections all have different colored headings than those around them. Notable Pages should be the same color as RuneScape News, and Opinion Poll and the Current date should be the same shade of green as the other sections in that column. One might argue that such a color scheme looks plain, but my teachings as an interior designer have always said that simple and logical is always better than exciting yet hectic.

I also feel like the Featured Article and Featured Image aren't given the attention they should get when they're on the side. I think the current main page handles them better, putting them centered under the languages. Moving those would allow us to move the poll higher on the page, giving IT more attention as well. Most people wouldn't see it otherwise. Most people come here, search what they want and go there without even looking over the main page.

For that same reason, the navigation buttons should be bigger. I think ElfAnurin's version handled the buttons very well, but they're kinda messed up right now! Dunno what happened. If three rows of buttons like he had is not desirable for one reason or another, so be it, but I feel they definitely do need to be bigger. Also my feedback about the contents of the buttons remains the same.

Forgot to sign! kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 19:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

The headers now have a unified colour scheme (two colours), and the icon sizes have been increased a little bit. The contrast issue mentioned in Forum:Contrast in Gaming theme is no longer an issue.   az talk   15:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Oh, I didn't know about the third design. I like the new colors for the headers but I don't think they work with the blue on the left side. And again, this one still squishes together when the window is resized. And regarding the pictures for the popular articles, I think that they should incorporate more f2p images. The ones I'm picking out are the Minigames, Armour, and Bestiary pictures. Those have only members' images, and although there's more member content, adding f2p images would be fair. And I think the images in the Minigames picture should be changed. I have absolutely no idea what the thing on the right is supposed to be. The pictures would also look nicer if they were a smidgen bigger. Aside from those, all is fine to me.  Panjy16  16:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

It looks great to me as it is, i suggest we don't mess with simplicity, as this is a wiki, needs to be easy on the yes, alot of text...Shinydude100 17 July 4:40 PM

Support + Comment - I like Elf Anurin's design the best of the three and here is my reasoning: The colors do not stand out too much as they they do in the Runescape:Main Page design and the two line popular articles section at the top is nicely spaced. The one line popular articles section in the other two designs does not look as nice, personally. I do not wish to comment on the number of links vs. our site rank as I am not knowledgeable in that, but everyone must remember that the purpose of the main page is to provide quick, functional access to popular features and topics in the wiki. As long as the removal of any links does not hamper that I believe that it is fine whatever is decided upon. Guthix cloak.pngInvincibility |Talk| |Edit Count| Magic.png 00:08, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment I REALLY Like the one on the bottom right (4th one) really looks good, i think there should be a little more color to these tho :) Thanks, Tba Beast44

You gotta comment on the design by following the links, not by looking at the images that are about an issue that came up o.O Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 01:13, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

hmm i like the design but its still extremely bland.i think that a background image would be sweet.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sir ector42 (talk).

Comment - Can we decide which one we're going to have then?--Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 17:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean Joe? We aren't gonna pick just 1 design. I'll be finishing a merged version soon. =) Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 23:21, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Ohhh. Great. In that case use your colours and logo's but the features and news bit from others. Just my view. =D--Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 19:51, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - The MechScape Wiki just recently went under an overhaul. Although we haven't got much categorizing done as the game hasn't been released, I like the setup on the mainpage there. Perhaps we can include something like that here? [[w:c:mechscape|MechScape Wiki]]

Bonziiznob Talk

02:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - on the one at Runescape:Main Page, I suggest we add 3 more categories with the images things - Achievement Diaries, Distractions and Diversionts and Items. It looks a bit unbalanced with the top row full and only one item in the bottom row. Now that's a throwing weapon!Doucher4000******r4000I'll eat you! 03:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

If we do that, I think we should center the categories. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 13:21, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Support - to ElfAnurin's design, simply as it looks more sleek and organized to me. I don't like the fact that Joe's '8 buttons' aren't symmetrical, kind of, unpleasing to the eye. 5 on top and 2 on the bottom? Err.. and I've only read the opening proposal by Joe and ElfAnurin, so sorry if things were changed up and whatnot. I'll come back soon to see if anyone's replied to me Smile --Quest point cape.pngLil Diriz 77 Talk Summoning-icon.png 05:37, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Now that I've seen the 3rd design (thanks Az), I still prefer Elf's. The 3rd design (RuneScape:Main Page) seems too... cluttered. I don't like that there's so many of those rounded rectangular headers... it feels like the page is just a bunch of lines! I don't like how the 8 buttons are all scrunched up in the corner there, with that extra white space. So again, my opinion is Elf's, as his seems much more nice, colorful, and simple. --Quest point cape.pngLil Diriz 77 Talk Summoning-icon.png 05:57, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - An interesting design but I personally think you would score bonus points for making it even simpler and cramming less stuff into the homepage making it a bit simpler for new players and new wiki users who have yet to learn the immense functionality of this site and the awesome fun that is runescape!  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Caspiorator (talk) on 15:13, 24 July 2009 (UTC).

I'm working on the merged design this week. I'll post here when it is finished. Adult chameleon (automatic).png Anurin Talk · Sign! . 08:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment - This seems to have come to a stand still, what is the progress on the merged design? - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 02:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the merged design was supposed to be done a month ago, what's going on? — Enigma 22:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Indeed, everytime I come to this page hoping for an update I read "28 July Update: Enough feedback has been collected. Merged design will be ready by friday 01/08.", and think that it might mean January 8th 2010 O_o and that I'm just confused with how Elf worded his dates.. so what's going on? Elf, was it supposed to be done January first? OMG! Quest point cape.pngLil Diriz 77 Talk Summoning-icon.png 03:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
No, it was supposed to be completed by the 1st of August. I left a message on ElfAnurin's talkpage some time ago, but he/she hasn't responded. I'm guessing that ElfAnurin has probably gone inactive. We need someone to start again from where we left off. C.ChiamTalk 03:48, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
You're right, I wonder what happened? He was pretty active then boom, hasn't made an edit since July 28th. That's a little odd, usually when someone's going to go inactive you can tell because they just get less and less active. I hope he's ok... — Enigma 02:34, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Moving on...

OK, well, this discussion died. We need someone to create a merged design of the main pages. Any volunteers? Remember, this isn't a popularity contest. If you want to volunteer just for the attention, please don't. If you are volunteerings because you actually know what to do, be my guest. — Enigma 05:59, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

We could get Az or one of the other people who majorly contributed and made main pages to do it?--Joe Click Here for Awesomeness 08:37, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I'll ask Az on her talk. — Enigma 22:47, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Closed - The thread continues at Forum:Main page redesign - Take 3.   az talk   18:57, October 5, 2009 (UTC)