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This thread was archived on 30 December 2012 by Psycho Robot.

Title says it all. Is it possible we can have a "lighttable" for every page?

(For those of you who do not know what a "lighttable" is, uses of these tables may be found on the completionist cape article, any task set article, and any other article that has tables with the ability to highlight a row with a click.)

For example... lighttables on userpages, userpage subpages, subpages under those subpages... pretty much everything on the wiki, not just under the mainspace. I know it's an easy thing to update. I just wanted to know if we could do this. It would be very convenient./bren/tc 07:54, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - Was a bit confused about this first, so I tested it out and for some reason it doesn't work on my user page. I wonder why, but I full support its allowance in other spaces. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 08:17, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Comment - The reason why this is not possible yet is because if we allow every user to have a lighttable or two, three, thousand, then people can spam other users' browsers with huge spamloads of cookies. This is not possible in the mainspace because you can't put thousands of lighttables on a page without getting rollbacked. The good side here is that you have to click a table before it saves a cookie, but the bad side here is that every table you click, you save a cookie. It's not that cookies are huge files or anything, but if you were to click a lot of tables, you would save a huge amount of cookies, and that is kinda spammy. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 08:55, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Spammy? I'm not sure that's much of an issue. Cookies are cookies. But... okay. ;o/bren/tc 09:50, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
Would it be possible to disable cookies by blahspace? --Henneyj 01:13, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
That would defeat the whole purpose of the lighttables wouldn't it? JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 15:09, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Question - Why? Blaze_fire.png12.png 09:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

I said in the thread... it would be convenient./bren/tc 09:50, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
Are there any example how they would be convenient? Explore and enjoy the world! TIMMMO Work it with all my heart!++Discuss Sign 15:12, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, how would they be convenient? You're not doing that good of a job convincing me that they should be everywhere, you know. Blaze_fire.png12.png 16:20, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Everywere? - I seriously doubt they're suitable everywhere. Wikitables are fine for most things. cqm 10:40, 29 Dec 2012 (UTC) (UTC)

Just use when necessary. If we're describing a list of materials needed to gather for a quest at the top of the article (let's say 5 or more) then sure go ahead, no problem, but I wouldn't want to see one for "You'll need rope" in every single section of the page. Hair 20:18, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

That's not what he's proposing. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 00:06, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Then this is pointless. Hair 01:33, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Strong Oppose - I oppose converting all wikitables to lightables. That's just ridiculous. Also that light green on white color scheme is too hard on the eyes! Bascially this is a rotten idea from start to finish. Wait... what? What do you mean that's not what you were suggesting? Whatever, its not my responsibility to understand what you're asking before opposing it. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 23:51, December 29, 2012 (UTC)

Your lack of constructive comments on every single serious YG discussion is annoying. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 00:06, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
inb4 Psycho pulls out SAOW for no reason. Blaze_fire.png12.png 00:19, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
You just don't understand me. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 00:28, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Clearly. Blaze_fire.png12.png 00:50, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Oh no, someone made a joke! Call the fun police! bad_fetustalk 00:56, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Then they'll take you away to the 'fun'geon Achievements Coelacanth0794 Talk Contribs 01:48, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Fun police, reporting for duty! It's my job to make sure that the wiki does not exceed its allocated amount of fun. What is the issue today? --LiquidTalk 05:08, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
There's a fine line between making a joke and being annoying, a line which this annoying robot had crossed about three threads ago. He's not making anyone laugh; he's playing overkill on a stupid persona that wasn't even funny in the first place. You contribute nothing and for what? Making an ass of yourself. MolMan 15:32, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Sarcasm SS reporting in. I'm putting a stop to all this nonsense. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 05:21, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Comment - I don't understand why people are saying why it should be in the user space, or what point it will have. It's the userspace: people can do whatever they want in their own, and I don't see why they should be limited to not having the light table. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 00:30, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Who said this..? Hair 01:06, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Blaze, Cam, and Tim. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 01:08, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
I never said anything like that. I asked how and why they would be convenient. Blaze_fire.png12.png 01:11, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
And like I said, why does that matter? It's up to the user to do whatever they want with the table. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 01:17, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
You do know we're talking about the main namespace, right? That's the reasoning why they're asking why it would be convenient to implement the table everywhere. They aren't opposing users using the table on their userpage/user subpages. Hair 01:19, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
I think it's only you that's talking about it in the mainspace, which is not what this thread is about. When people are saying "everywhere", they mean on other spaces, not other pages of the main space. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 01:46, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
Question: Lighttables are currently available in mainspace only? Explore and enjoy the world! TIMMMO Work it with all my heart!++Discuss Sign 12:37, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Support - Tried it on User:Iiii I I I/themechanges. Didn't work. Was gobsmacked. Am currently on the third stage of the Kübler-Ross model. --Iiii I I I 01:32, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

lol u mad o wait u not mad anymore lol ubargain bro JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 15:15, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
The answer lies in the Mersenne Primes. MolMan 15:32, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Oppose - Seriously? Your proposal is to use there just for the sake of using them. Can you actually name one additional table for which this be of any use? And if that's all you can name, then man up and put it there. There are plenty of tables where this is completely pointless (and overkill, even): Dropstable, charm logs, monster lists (such as those on slayer master pages), etc. There's no convenience to abusing the ability to click a box. MolMan 15:32, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Oppose - From my experience these tables don't even work half the time. I do not believe rolling this out across the wiki is what is the best option for the wiki right now What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 15:44, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Closed - No consensus. Well over half the people have misunderstood what OP's thread was about. Rerolling.

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kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 18:10, December 30, 2012 (UTC)