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This thread was archived on 28 November 2009 by Soldier 1033.

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Seeing as Forum:Jagex - advertise the WikiFest? was closed, I've taken Quarenon's advice and opened up a new thread. My proposal is a fairly simple compromise - every second Wikifest, we have Jagex advertise us. In all the Wikifests in between, we make them "private".

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Support - As nominator. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  08:25, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - A wikifest can be a great time to attract new people. I understand that you want to have a wikians only event. When you want one of those, make one up, like when when Chia and Caleb had thier little war. That was fun and wikian only. But lets use the wiki fests to show we are indeed an open site. And an open group. I really think the idea "we have enough people now we don't need anymore" can only hurt the wiki.--Degenret01 08:39, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not saying "we have enough people now we don't need anymore" - It's great to get more contributors, and that's the point of this proposal. By having Jagex advertise us every second Wikifest, we can still gain plenty of contributors, but we can have a "wikian-only" Wikifest too. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  08:51, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
Some of the people against allowing non wikians at fests have stated this as a primary reason for doing so.--Degenret01 00:24, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
If I recall correctly, the Chia-Caleb event went horribly (I didn't go but I heard a bunch of sore losers from Caleb's team whine about cheating) because of bad sportsmanship. Slayer helmet.png 18:06, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
Your right, you weren't there, so you don't know what happened.--Degenret01 00:24, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
Since when did that happen? C.ChiamTalk 02:47, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - I think that would be even worse. A Wikifest, even though it says wiki, is not just a wikifest. It's something fun for everyone. While I think that from some points of view, it would be better to have it private, but I think that it is best for them to advertise it. We should just make sure that everything is organised well. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 15:32, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Support - That seems fair, some events should be for Wikians only in my opinion. Dragon platebody.pngCeno FlameTalk Contribs # SignDragon chainbody.png 16:54, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Support - To keep people happy, this would be good. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 22:17, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - We should wait for this wikifest to be over before deciding what to do in the future. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 22:24, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well obviously we'll see if this proposal passes and then sort details out (at least we should), this won't affect the current Wikifest. Besides, I thought we already voted and approved that Jagex advertise this one. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 22:59, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
Right, but we should see how it goes this time before deciding on future wikifests. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 00:03, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
Well, it's been done once before, yet I wasn't there, and depending on who you're asking, it was either chaos or it was fine, so I have no idea how it was. Were you there? http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 03:23, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
I was there, it was a bit chaotic but wikifest always seems to be and considering the amount of people it went fine. This time we are( hopefully) more prepared for a large amount of people. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 00:44, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - although I did not want them advertising this Wikifest it doesn't make sense to allow them to advertise some but not all. Andrew talk 23:48, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

It'd make more sense then having a vote about it at every 'fest. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 02:54, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Every one of us was a 'non-wikian' before... Prayer.png Jedi Talk HS Log Tracker Summoning.png 00:02, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - This will just confuse people and it's not something that we should do anyways, imo.

Bonziiznob Talk

02:44, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Maybe, we could have Wikifests, and then have completely separate events that are specifically made for recruiting new users or generating interest in the site? Custom- tailored and organized especially for possible new editors? And attempt to get Jagex to advertise them? Obviously, we couldn't just call them "Recruiting events" or something like that, but they could include fun events such as clan wars or something? Have them alternate between members worlds and- oh, well, I'm getting too detailed now, but you see where I'm going. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 03:19, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Degenret, We have wikian-only events almost daily with the clan chat. Want those, come to those. We have weekly events that are Wikian-only, at scheduled times. Wikifest is a time to celebrate the wiki and its community, and I see no better way to do that than by bringing more editors in. Now that's a throwing weapon!Doucher4000******r4000I'll eat you! 03:45, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

The point that I attempted to make numerous times on the other thread was that the daily/weekly events in the CC are never the size of the Wikifest. They just aren't. Originally, Wikifests were for Wikians and they were lots of fun as they were. Now, suddenly, it's all about gaining new members, and IMO, the fun has dried up. Why is this suddenly primarily about gaining new members, and not actually about maximising fun? ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  19:11, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Support Clearly there are people who feel strongly about this on both sides, but this sounds like a great compromise to me. It means that every six months (e.g. the summer and winter) we will have a smaller, more organised fest aimed at wikians (though others can join in if they happen to be there), and every six months in between (e.g. spring and autumn) we can expect a crazier, more chaotic fest involving the RuneScape population at large. There will be wikians who really do not want to attend the bigger events, but they will still have Wikifest Classic to enjoy (albeit only twice a year instead of four times). It's a good enough compromise to get my two thumbs up.  :-) Leevclarke talk Max_logo_mini.png bulldog_puppy.png 15:08, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - It's not right. Why do we need to prevent the silent advertisement be hushed under the carpet? There is nothing wrong with having Jagex to give a shout out for all Wikifests. To me, shielding the fests off from Jagex is in itself Elitism, Fascism, whatever you call it, it's stuck-up. I do not care anymore on whether you support or oppose on any grounds, just so you know that it's just not right to forget the principle of the Wiki, "That anyone can edit." Per Degen and D4K. Ryan PM 01:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - It's not really a good solution. people will think, "Oh, lets check the RS wiki to see when their next wikifest is, so we can crash the party!" It is a wikifest, not an everyone fill up world 29 so we can spam their party this season-fest. When Jagex didn't advertise the wikifest, they'd catch on and go to the wiki, find out the date, and thus eliminate the need to advertise whatsoever. they'd find out, advert or not, and it would quite possibly turn the wikifest into a wreck.--Cheers, Off-hand ascension crossbow.pngYodaAscension crossbow.png 01:09, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I admit, we were all non-wikian before, and others deserve a chance to join the wiki. Who knows, they could become the next b'crat on the wiki, but I do think we should refrain from openly advertising. If someone asks, "Is this a party?" we can say, "Yes, the R S Wikia is having its seasonal Wikifest, come join the fun!" That would be fine. But to the point of true advertising? That seesms a Recipe for Disaster to me.--Cheers, Off-hand ascension crossbow.pngYodaAscension crossbow.png 01:16, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Yet another new compromise

People are probably getting sick of my compromise proposals now, but I've got another one. According to Gaz on this thread, Jagex advertised the Wikifest on the RSOF but not their Twitter. How about we just do this every time? Each season we can have some Jagex involvement (possibly bringing us closer to being on the trusted site list), gain some new users but not have obscene amounts of non wikians crashing the party. I thought this Wikifest was really successful, and this advertising method should be used again. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  01:39, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

100% Support - Sounds good. I did send a tweet to the twitter by the way, but it wasn't placed up. Anyways, this worked, and we even got a J-mod to make an appearance, which is awesome.

Bonziiznob Talk

04:15, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Just to clarify - So, next Wikifest (and in all future Wikifests, unless the community votes otherwise) we will ask Jagex to advertise us on the RuneScape Official Forums. We won't ask them to advertise us on Twitter. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  07:22, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Support - I think it worked out very well this time. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 09:28, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Support - While I don't feel that having the wikifests advertised will by any means increase our chances of Jagex acknowledging us, it sounds like a very good compromise. I didn't get to go to the wikifest because of the time it was on for me, but it sounds like it had a was well controlled as well as enjoyable =D Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 09:35, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Support - The wikifest went well and the RSOF provides some advertisement without getting the mass crowd of non-wikians which we can not handle well. - TehKittyCatTalk Wikian-Book 14:49, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Sounds good. I think we had a good crowd at this recent wikifest and I think there was plenty of fun for new and vet users alike. Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 20:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Seems like a good compromise at getting the word out without getting overloaded from non-wikian participation. Also, I was only able to be there for the first 10 minutes or so, but it looked like the number of people there was quite manageable. --Quarenon  Talk 22:27, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Support - From what I've heard, this Wikifest went very well, attracting new users but not turning into 'Spamfest'. Hello71 22:42, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Support - works for me! Andrew talk 22:50, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Yay, I came up with a proposal that didn't quickly get shot down by most of the Wikian community! ^_^ ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  05:01, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - XD Chicken7 >talk 05:03, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Support - This seemed to work. Though, to be honest, I don't mind the advertising on Twitter. But hey. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 18:00, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Weak Support - I don't really care, but I see no problems with it Wink bad_fetustalk 14:23, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Seems ok, and we could be more trusted by Jagex, but from what i heard, after cabbage bombing, everything went downhill. But I guess that's opinion.--Cheers, Off-hand ascension crossbow.pngYodaAscension crossbow.png 16:10, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Fine & dandy. Me neither, Gaz. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 17:40, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Request for closure - In only a week this proposal has had unanimous support, and there hasn't been any activity for a further week, so I think this is ready to archive. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  22:33, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Closed - future Wikifests will be advertised by Jagex on the sticky in the Events forum but not on Twitter. Andrew talk 22:43, November 28, 2009 (UTC)