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This thread was archived on 14 April 2012 by Liquidhelium.



There is far too much impersonation happenning in the Clan chat, names such as gaz floyd and liquidhelum, as well as all the liquid___ that happens,and i believe it is becoming a big enough issue to at least be discussed.

Im sure between us we can think of something less draconian, but IMO it should become a kickable offense with the user fully welcome to come back after they change there name back.


there would have to be guidelines laid down as too how long before a dropped name can be taken, as some people have suggested that liquidhelium (the real one that is) having changed his name to RSW is impersonating jim as he used to have that name. however i am led to believe it was over 6 name changes ago and therefore there should be no punishment.

i appriciate peoples thoughts on the matter
Zaros symbol.png KDanger Talk 17:44, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

  1. It takes longer than on IRC to rename ourselves in RuneScape, so any name change has an effect for at least 28 days. Thankfully the Liquid_____ stuff is mostly over, except for Liquidhelum, but having 5 Liquids in the chat was very confusing. I propose that all users be made aware of the previous-name in friends list feature. Thereafter, all users should be made aware of which name a person once had, if the previous name indication has disappeared from the friends list. Finally, if it gets too out of hand or there are too many people taking similar usernames in a period of 28 days, I say we should kick those with malicious intent after their 28 day name-change cooldown would be over (and therefore they would have the ability to change their name, but choose not to do so).
    A special note on RSW: I believe that should be OK, because it was Liquidhelium taking it back for the clan from someone who was not in the clan. If the friends chat is ever needed again, that'll be useful.  a proofreader ▸  22:30, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
  2. I'm not in your clan chat, but from a neutral point of view, unless the intent is malicious or meant to genuinely confuse players (really, an underscore is pretty darn noticeable), I see no reason anyone should be forced out of the clan chat. There's also the issue of players who have, by random chance, a very similar name. In real life, I'm sure we aren't going to ban "Ally" from joining the cool people club simply because there's already another "Ally". Also, as proof mentioned, anyone who changes their name as a harmless joke shouldn't have to be banned from the chat for a full four weeks. Hofmic Talk 22:45, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
It wasn't Liquid_____. One user changed his name to Liquidoxygen; shortly thereafter someone else changed his name to LiquidWater. (I demanded and mostly received sole use of the abbreviation "Liquid".) --LiquidTalk 22:49, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Comment - I don't see it as that big of an issue; if Gaz Floyd or Liquidhelum try to tell clanmates to do something, issue "rules" that aren't in RS:CC, or the likes, under the impression that they were speaking for Gareth or myself, then there's an issue. But as that has yet to happen, I don't see it as a big issue.

As for me being RSW, I stole it back from the person who stole it from Jim a long time ago. --LiquidTalk 22:51, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Comment - IRC is one thing, but in Clan Chat, you know who is who based on rank and the display name history feature that RuneScape has. I see nothing wrong with multiple users having a very similar or the same prefix (Reminiscent of Mookie players). I don't see how there are any issues with character names and no one really owns one name over another like "RSW" et al. That being said, I oppose anything that relates to punishing players for similar names. No one should have to be asked "You should no longer be ____A M because ____B M was in the clan longer" to distinguish users. This is a forum, not a numbering solution. Ryan PM 03:28, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Comment - unless someone can provide proof that a name change is being used maliciously I see no reason to implement any real guidelines on it. Besides, the clan ban list should alter names accordingly as I assume it works on the same principle as a players individual ignore list. I can't say I've ever paid too much attention to a clan ban list before, so I'm not 100% on that. If the fc was ever reinstated then I could see a cause for confusion and have experienced such a confusion first hand, but seeing as a clan has quite clearly designated ranks it doesn't take much for the imposter to be recognised. In the case that an imposter is providing conflicting rules in an attempt to be purposely disruptive then I would suggest using RS:BLOCK as a good foundation for kicking them. cqm talk 08:28, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Comment - I think the same thing that applies in the IRC should be applied to the CC as well. Kick and possible ban for malicious impersonation, no action for impersonation for fun or in jest. 222 talk 08:33, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Comment - Personally I think it's amusing, lighthearted joking around. They are clearly mock names (reminds me of the likes of Von Mistelroum in the early pro evo games). No-one has abused the naming, nor could they really. Besides, if we can't take the mick out of Liquid once in a while, what can we do? --Henneyj 15:41, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >:( --LiquidTalk 05:19, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Closed - Henney is a noob. The general consensus is that these names are for amusement, and that as no malicious intent was involved, they will continue to be permissible. --LiquidTalk 00:21, April 14, 2012 (UTC)