Forum:Images Needing Transparency

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This thread was archived on 31 January 2009 by AndorinKato.

As per the project, RuneScape:Image Maintenance, Category:Images needing transparency contains a large number of pictures that require transparency. Within this category are a vast amount of pictures that do not meet our wiki standards and it was here that I am trying to get feedback on how to clean this up. I would love to see it where zero images require transparency meaning that all these images have it however a vast of these pictures are low detail, have anti-aliasing, or are saved as a format other then PNG. I ponder why these images are in this category as they do not meet standard criteria anyways and the effort making them transparent is pointless. I'm looking for opinions on implicating a method to reduced these pictures within this category so I was thinking a new transparency policy is possible where pictures would have to meet these criteria before being eligible to be placed in the Category:Images needing transparency:

  • Must be in PNG File Format;
  • Files currently located here, must be retaken and saved as a PNG
  • Images must be High-Detail;
  • Files currently located [[:Category:Standard detail images|here]], must be retaken as HD
  • Must be taken with Anti-Aliasing turned off;
  • Files currently located [[:Category:Anti-aliased images|here]], must be retaken with AA off

Once all of these criteria are met, transparency should then be requested.

Looking for opinions, please let me know. Thanks!

Bonziiznob Talk

01:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Support - Makes sense, as if an image is a jpg, non HD, or AA then it will have to be retaken. If all images in Category:Images needing transparency already met those criteria then it is simply a case of removing the background of the existing image. This would encourage those who know how to make images transparent to do so, and those who don't can take required images and tag them for someone to make them transparent. I also think the transparency template would have to be updated so people know not to use it on images that should be retaken. --Mizon (talk) 04:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Support - nice idea and per Mizon's comments. Andrew talk 05:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Support+Comment - It's a good idea since it is pointless to add the transparency template to sd and non-png images that are going to be replaced with HD images sooner or later. But I have a query, is AA good or bad? Because this page [[1]] seems to say that AA is good? And one of the criteria is "must be taken with AA off". C.ChiamTalk 12:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment - It depends on the situation in which Anti-Aliasing is used. For moving images, such as GIF's, and for images that do not require transparency anti-aliasing should be turned on, but for images that require transparency anti-aliasing should be turned on off. 21:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Bonzi i think you meant to say AA should be off for images that are transparency candidates (i discussed the difficulties of applying transparency to images that are anti-aliased on someone's talk page that i can't recall). Anti-aliasing does make the images smoother for images that will not have transparency, so the general rule of thumb would be, animations and images that won't have transparency should have anti-aliasing turned on, and still images that are intended for transparency should be taken with anti-aliasing turned off. The main goal (in my opinion) of why to have clean transparency of images is the goal of re-skinning the RS Wiki, which will likely be something darkish and similar to yet distinct at the same time. Currently most images that have transparency and anti-aliasing will look poor on dark backgrounds. Worse for some reason, most tables viewed under the Gaming skins have a light background that makes their text unreadable. At one point I was still of the opinion that this Wiki could be led forward to a re-skinning, but as far as i can see for now, it will take someone with more time and dedication than myself to lead the way. ~kytti khat 23:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
AA turned on.
AA turned off
I agree with Kytti, but some users can't do this. I am one of those, I upload most of the animations here on the Wiki, but my computer is just too slow to play Runescape on AAx4. I DID try it with AAx4 in the beginning, see the examples right of here. But the results were laggy images. Mercifull CAN play on AAx4, without making laggy images. Personally, I think that this shouldn't be a big problem, as the images are clearly showing what must be showed.-- Miasmic Blitz icon.png Hapi007 Talk! Sign! . 15:31, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not worried more so about the AA on animations as I am for still images. 15:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)