I've been meaning to bring this up for ages, but the latest poll on our homepage is the final straw. I think the polls on the homepage have been increasingly irrelevant, and the latest one (something along the lines of "what would you do if a wild rat attacked you") is frankly mindless. I don't mean to insult anyone here (I have no idea how these things are proposed or approved), but it doesn't seem to have any real relevance either in the RuneScape universe or to real life. Up until a year ago, we had the Typical Player polls, but even these were falling apart towards the end.
So I propose a monthly typical player poll on the homepage, asking such questions as "which gender are you", "how old are you", "which country are you from", and so on. The figures should be reset on the first of every month, and will help to show trends. For example, now that RS has been released in India, are we seeing a rise in the number of Indian editors? Is there an increasing proportion of female contributors after Jagex said they were trying to make the game more female-friendly? What is the distribution of ages (and is it similar to what Jagex claims)? This will give us a gauge of the wiki community demographics, and, even though these are not representative of RuneScape players overall, I think it would be much more helpful than knowing that 36% of people would try to eat the hypothetical wild rat alive (yes, that is a real statistic from the current poll).
Crucially, we should decide on a set of questions and try to keep them as consistent as possible from one month to the next. We can discuss the specifics later, but in principle, would this get consensus of support as a worthwhile move? Discuss. :-) Leevclarke talk 14:55, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
Agreed - I find that particular poll pretty much pointless. Who cares if a wild cat (or rat) attacked me outside my castle/house/garden?
Here's my proposal:
- Have the polls extended to 2 weeks, or a month...
- Ask questions related to the RuneScape Wiki, not RuneScape. Demographic information (age, gender, country), browser information (screen resolution, browser type, skin type), computer information (operating system, graphics)... questions that would generally help us improve the wiki.
- For example, we could ask:
- "How can we improve the articles in this wiki?"
- "Can the images used in this wiki be improved? If so, how?"
- "Are you familiar with our policies?"
- Or, we could ask thought-provoking and/or controversial questions, such as:
- "Recently, have you encountered an administrator abusing his/her power?"
- "When you were new to this wiki, how friendly has the wiki community?"
- "Did you encounter any problems dealing with other users in this wiki?"
- "How useful did you find this wiki compared to other fansites?"
Ideally, we should have a process where users can choose the questions they want to ask the community on the Main Page, and discuss about it. Currently, any user can simply create a poll on a whim, and personally, I don't like that. When we have processes such as RS:FIMG to choose images and RS:AOTM to choose articles, shouldn't we have some process to choose the poll questions? 17:27, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
Support - I've also been wondering who makes these polls.20:29, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
Support - per all.20:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
Support - Honestly, the current poll is ridiculous. If I saw a/n (insert creatures name here), I wouldn't find it noteworthy to even remember what I did. A poll based on our efficiency, more so around Max's ideas, seems the most logical thing to do on a place of information. If someone wants a "silly" poll, they can use their userpage. Chaos Monk Talk • Sign 02:51, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Support - While I think this current poll was just an attempt to be light-hearted, I do think the community should decide what the poll should be, just like we decide all other content that goes on the main page. From what I can tell the poll is done at the whim of whoever wants to change it. While I apprect most of the polls so far, lets get everyone in on the action. Lets make a page like AOTM, UOTM, FIMG etc. and let everyone have some input.04:46, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Support - PotM sounds great to me04:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Support - I know the current poll is trying to be humorous, but they'd be much better if they were on-topic and helpful. And the current one, I had no idea how/what to answer! I support all Az's and Max's ideas. Cheers, Chicken7 >talk 08:12, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Support - However, please don't ask technical questions about things like screen resolution. To me at least, participating in those polls it is a hassle rather then fun since you have to go to the trouble of looking it up. Evil Yanks talk 08:22, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - Ah, yes. I hate those ones, and I never bother to participate in them... Chicken7 >talk 13:19, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
Strong oppose - Demographics information is really boring, especially stuff about screen resolution, etc. Who cares about that? I enjoy the polls we receive (although the one about the rat was pretty random...), and I don't want to deviate from our current ones. I support the polls being changed every month, though. ~ Sentry Telos Talk 07:41, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
Major support - While I like a little bit of humour on this wiki, the giant rat thing was a silly idea, imagine how put off some new users might be. Ruud (talk)(Suggest me naems) 08:26, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
Support - per all, but not demographic information, at least not often; that's fairly boring and too real life-ish for many people. I think two weeks is long enough, at a month they get stale and redundant. Kudos 2 U Talk! Edit count! Contribs! 12:13, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
Soft support some bits, oppose others - If we were to make them last for two weeks, that would be fine, I suppose. But make it a month? No. As Kudos said, that just gets boring. Most people who are going to vote would have done so probably after the first week.
With having some of the polls about demographic data, I can't see how that would be bad, but all the time? Okay, as Telos said, who cares? People usually don't like a census in the first place, and having an everlasting one would just make it a hassle. Also, a thing to remember: it's a poll. Anyone can put in whatever they want anonymously, and as many times as they want if they have a proxy or multiple computers. We could quite easily get inaccurate information on an important matter. Chiafriend12I have 12 friends. 20:44, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - Maybe so Chia, but truly, do you think some guy is going to go to that much trouble of either swapping computers or proxies and voting in the poll x times more, even when it is not going to determine any major community decisions? Chicken7 >talk 23:59, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
Support - Though I do agree that two weeks is better, and not a lot of demographic stuff would be good too.21:10, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
Comment - We ought to be able to assess some of the technical information though information gathering scripts. In fact, Wikia has already installed Google Analytics on the wiki. I know it collects some information such as resolution, browser/OS, geographics, and connection speed. Maybe we can request some of the info that's gathered? --Quarenon Talk 00:59, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
Comment For my part, I think the technical specifications (such as OS, browser, screen resolution, connection speed) is utterly trivial. I'm really more interested in the people, i.e. stats like age, gender, and nationality. Maybe gauging these every month is too much... Maybe we should schedule these in for e.g. once every six months amongst a rotation of more "interesting" stuff. This is kind of a shift from my original proposal, incidentally. :-) I do think that the demographics polls (perhaps more crucially than "fun" polls) should be up for more than a week, so that the number of people who respond is high enough to approximate a sample representative of the community. The number of respondents we get on our polls is far smaller than those for Jagex's polls. I would say a fortnight should be the minimum for these, even if people don't want them to be up for a month at a time. Leevclarke talk 23:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Oppose - I don't wanna see just polls of the typical player.. Chiafriend has made some weird polls sometimes. I guess such poll are the taste of a low lvl player.. I myself made a couple polls aswell, which I thought were more interesting then knowing if people like zammy, sara or guthix. The poll about browser resolutions was ment to help with the new wikia layout. But please don't repeat them so often, no more then once a year to be honest.
I support having a new poll every 2 weeks. A month is way to long. Also I suggest having a Poll of polls page, where you can propose a poll; You can submit the question of your poll (without the choices) onto a list there. Each 2 weeks all these poll questions get put in a Poll of polls on the top of the page. The winner of the poll will have the right to publish his poll for the main page. In the meantime that people vote in that poll on top, below there.. people can submit new poll questions on the new list. 18:14, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Discussion Closed - It has been more than a month since any additional commentary on this question has been offered, and no specific policy has really been offered other than to have better polls to be placed on the main page/homepage of this wiki. Such a suggestion for better polls does indeed have consensus here, and is deserving of attention. --Robert Horning 18:53, December 16, 2009 (UTC)