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First, all holiday event articles are currently titled like this: [YEAR] [HOLIDAY] event (e.g. 2009 Christmas event). However, Jagex has referred to only one of the events this way, and only once - in the 2007 news item "Christmas Event - For ALL Players!" In all other places, it is some other format, usually like Thanksgiving 2009, or an actual name for the event, like Splitting Heirs. In the RuneScape Game Guide, all holiday pages (except for Hallowe'en 2009 where it is titled "Hallowe'en 2009 - Web of Shadows" are titled like this: [HOLIDAY] [YEAR] Event (capitalised). (Note that the Event at the end of the title could just be part of the Game Guide page title, not the actual name of the event.) (EDIT: "Nomad's Requiem" suggests that the GG articles are event guides for holidays (i.e. Christmas 2008), as opposed to guides for holiday events (i.e. Christmas 2008 Event), so we should name untitled seasonal events that way.) White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 20:06, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

In the style guide, it states that things on the RuneScape Wiki should be titled just how they are in RuneScape. Although holiday articles with names state that there is an official name to the event (like Splitting Heirs), the article is still titled incorrectly. {{Title|A Christmas Warble}} has even been added to the 2009 Christmas event article a few times.

Also, the Holiday Rewards article is an article that both lists Holiday Rewards, and gives information about holiday events. Since these events are called "Seasonal events" in-game (look at your Quest List), we should move that page also. (EDIT: in "Nomad's Requiem", it is called a holiday event, but I still support calling them seasonal events because of the Quest List name.) White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 20:06, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

I propose that we:

  1. Change all named seasonal events to their official names (From 2009 Easter event to Splitting Heirs)
  2. Change all unnamed seasonal events to the Game Guide format (From 2008 Thanksgiving event to Thanksgiving 2008 Event (or just Thanksgiving 2008, see above))
  3. Move Holiday Rewards to Seasonal events and make changes to navboxes and articles
  4. EDIT: Redirects will be used. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 14:18, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 01:08, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Support 1-3 as nominator. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 01:08, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • Support all - It's less confusing when the "official" names are used, as that'll probably be the first thing people expect to see when searching and viewing articles. --Quarenon  Talk 01:15, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - What Quarenon said. --Iiii I I I 01:17, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - I agree with what Quarenon said. Prgmbeta 01:23, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • Neutral Oppose- What concerns me is if the older and past events were named with a special unique name that Jagex gave them that is not common knowledge, it would be really hard for people that did not play back then to find the event pages if we used their 'update event' name. Someone could not find the page for some random holiday event name from 2 years ago as easily with your proposal it seems. I see it as it would be easier to find the page if we use the current system. Having a standardized way to name pages would be better I believe, as there is no trace of what the holiday events were named once they're gone. For example, looking for '2008 Christmas event' seems easier than 'Myths of the White Lands' in my opinion once the event is long past and someone needs information on it. Merry Christmas!!! Prayer.png Jedi Talk HS Log Tracker Summoning.png 03:36, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - I am runescape fan and as respect to jagex, i would prefer that the pages are named via the jagex event names  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.73.176.150 (talk). :I don't think IPs can vote? http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 16:38, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
The IP seems to know what we're talking about, though. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 17:21, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
Irrelevant, IPs cannot vote per Forum:50 edits for Aotm, Forum:50 edits for UotM and Forum:50 main edits for whatever. *strikes out IP vote* ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  09:06, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Aren't those discussions only about UotM and AotM, though? White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 11:18, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Correct, IPs are allowed to discuss/vote on YG at this time.Remving strikeouts.--Degenret01 04:37, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment - I am kinda neutral on this, but I would be prefer "2009 Christmas event" compared to "Christmas 2009" or "Christmas 2009 Event".
Why?
  • The Game Guide and the news released by Jagex are fairly unreliable in terms of naming conventions and is definitely not standardised. J-Mods are a bit loose on names, and usually do not follow any particular convention or format. Since the KB articles are written by J-Mods, I don't think they should be used as a yardstick for our naming convention. I've noticed many instances where items are named incorrectly (i.e. not their in-game names) in Patch Notes, Updates, and KB articles. As noted by C Teng, even in their KB articles, the holiday events are named inconsistently. Thus, we need to use our own naming convention for these pages...
  • I'm simply used to the current naming convention... and the current naming convention is used widely in Wikipedia and in other official documents and events. Usually, the year is placed before the event (i.e. "2009 Nobel Prizes") or after the event in brackets (i.e. "Nobel Prizes (2009)"). See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (events) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (numbers and dates). I'm not saying we should follow them, but we have to be fairly consistent in our naming conventions. If we moved these holiday pages, we should think about other articles as well.
  • If we used our own naming convention, linking and searching for a particular holiday event is made easier if you do not know the name of the event. (In fact, I forgot about Splitting Heirs and thought it was a quest.) Redirects can be used for named holiday events, but we should replace the normal text to reflect the in-game name. For example, the first sentence in Tiny Thom refers to the event as "A Christmas Warble" but links to "2009 Christmas event".
  • In the style guide, we say that Articles about items, monsters, quests, and non-player characters should be titled exactly as the subject's name appears in-game. Now, based on this, only Splitting Heirs and A Christmas Warble should be moved to their in-game names. But, we could simply use {{title|A Christmas Warble}} and [[2009 Christmas event|A Christmas Warble]] for convenience and consistency with other holiday pages.
  • Note that Jagex still uses "Holiday Guides" in the KB articles. While the Quest List lists "A Christmas Warble" under "Seasonal events", the examine text of the Oak toy box says that it "stores holiday items". Again, proof that Jagex are inconsistent with naming conventions. I think we should stick with "Holiday events" and "Holiday items", but this is open to debate and discussion.
On a side note, if we decided to move these pages, we would have to create new categories because we cannot move categories. We should replace any instances of the old categories (i.e. Category:2009 Christmas event, Category:2008 Christmas event, etc.) with new categories.
Simply put:
  1. Just use Template:Title and piped links. Replace any text with new name.
  2. Leave unnamed seasonal events as they are now.
  3. Split Holiday Rewards into several articles:
    • Holiday events (or "Seasonal events")
    • Holiday items (or "Seasonal items" or "Seasonal event items") - this article should include discontinued holiday items as well
My tuppence worth.   az talk   05:36, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I see your point. But, I don't understand why you want to use the title template and piped links, instead of just redirecting the current formatted titles to the proposed ones (i.e. redirect 2009 Christmas eventA Christmas Warble). Also, when looking at the Game Guide, in-game, and the oak toy box you mentioned, I think that when referring to items, they are called "holiday items", but when referring to the actual events, they are called seasonal events. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 15:11, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Weak oppose - Per Az. By her logic, this would just create more work without being beneficial. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  08:55, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

  • Support - As long as each event has their former names redirecting to it. For example; 2009 Easter event redirects to Splitting Heirs etc. Black cavalier.png Zenihdrol Tribal top (blue).png 17:03, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - This wiki is all about having it exactly how JaGex has it so why be any different about this? We can just redirect what we have now, so there is no reason why we shouldn't do this. scoot4.pngscooties 19:59, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose - All we need is a redirect, not a Move. This helps for more efficient searching for newer players and/or the process of actually listing each holiday event becomes easier, when categorised simply by year and season. Fruit.Smoothie 02:03, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Per Azliq and F.S. --Nup(T) 11:03, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Comment/Support... Why are people using bullets before their votes? ._./ I support because, well, A Christmas Warble WAS the name of the event in-game, in the quest tab. As was Splitting Heirs and, I'm pretty sure, Web of Shadows. If it takes more work, that's too bad, but the names are the names. But the transition from holiday events to holiday "quests" was only last Halloween (though that year it was an event AND a quest o_O), I believe, so it won't be across all holiday event articles. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 16:38, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - For the sakes of simplicity and consistency. Redirects are fine. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 21:51, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per Mike. "Holiday Rewards" should also redirect to "Seasonal events."  Tien  15:15, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Az. --Cannonball.pngJack Spiral1Rapier.png 16:53, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Jed. Fishing.png NnK Oliver (600613) talk 16:56, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

I support this idea and don't support it at the same time, Because people will search for "Christmas event in 2009" or "2009 Christmas event" not "A Christmas Warble", So, and also to improve the wiki i think we should copy the article to A Christmas Warble or redirect it, not moving it. Rune scimitar.png BAHJY1 talk Rune scimitar.png

Copying it and then redirecting would be the same as moving... Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 17:33, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Well, if the opposers think it's too much work, I'm sure all the Supporters would be happy to work on it. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 16:38, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

I can say that I would be happy to work on it. scoot4.pngscooties 17:43, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

I think just redirecting it will help, because not a lot of players would search for `A Christmas Warble'. they're most likely to search for 2009 Christmas event. Hunter cape (t).png Zylus Blue partyhat.png

Most are already redirectd Wink Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 10:52, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the above statement. The official name should be as stands. The majority of people will not search "A Christmas Warble". For the few that do, they will obviously be redirected to the correct page.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.110.181.22 (talk) on 01:19, December 30, 2009 (UTC).

Comment - Many of the opposers seem to be under the impression that we can't have searches for things like "2009 Christmas Event" redirect to "A Christmas Warble" instead of the other way around. Many people might not search for it, but it is the offical name of the event, and the page should be changed to reflect this (The same goes for Web of Shadows and Splitting Heirs. --Armadyl symbol.png Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law.png 06:25, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

The update was called Update:A Christmas Warble (Christmas 2009), so it could be called Christmas 2009 and still have the official name. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 10:12, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Other events were called different names in game, while on the website they were called (eg Thanksgiving 2009) .. Keeping it 2009 Christmas event would keep this wiki organized. Changing it to A Christmas Warble would confuse a lot of players and it would not fit in with the other holiday events , and since they all do not have names to go with them , some events would have a name with it "Splitting heirs" and others wouldnt like 2002 Halloween event . That would make this wiki to disorganized. In Runescape's Holiday events guide the event is "Christmas 2009 Event Guide" PLUS the news post says: A Christmas Warble (Christmas 2009) --Josh2 15:44, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - People dont really know the events name so keeping it at 2009 Christmas event keeps it simple for everyone. Right? --Herblore Supawilko 19:45, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Redirects. If they search for Christmas 2009 Event, just redirect them to A Christmas Warble. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 17:21, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
Comment in reply to Oli4burggraa - Since "Christmas 2009" is in Parenthesis, no, it is not the offical name. It's just noting that it's a Christmas event. --Armadyl symbol.png Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law.png 23:37, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
Hmm... I suppose you're right. But Jagex themselves have referred to it as simple the 2009 Christmas Event. So why not? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 16:30, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
When have they said that? White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 17:20, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
Twitter: "'A Christmas Warble' is the 2009 #RuneScape Christmas event." But never mind, you're right - the thread that I meant seems to have been created not by a Jmod as I thought, but by someone else. Never mind. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 22:29, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
Reread that tweet you just quoted. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 00:36, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
I know. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 08:35, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Redirects solve the user convenience problems. For the sake of consistency, we should choose to call things by either their popular names or their proper names. Existing policy states that things should be titled "exactly as the subject's name appears in-game" - a logical extension to this policy for things not directly named in-game is to go by what the official site says. --MarkGyver 02:34, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

The official site is not a reliable source of "names". They do not follow a standardised naming convention. See examples above.   az talk   03:47, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - I believe for the sake of simplicity, that we keep the current layout OR use simple redirects to the newer style. However, the template should NOT change Bowler225 11:36, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - "...use simple redirects to the newer style"? That's what my proposal is. And what template? White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 01:37, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Using Template:Title, redirects, and piped links would be the same as moving 2009 Christmas event to A Christmas Warble, only far too complex. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 00:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

We already have redirects and, in some cases, piped links. So it is not as complex as one might think.   az talk   03:47, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
But why do all that if it does the same thing as moving the articles? Using the Title template is just confusing. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 04:19, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
We don't have to use the template. You were the one who insisted on moving the pages... I believe that the users are more familiar with the current naming system, and moving them will only complicate things further. Even though Bill Gates' real name is William Henry "Bill" Gates III, his article is in Bill Gates, how he is commonly known. I think the same principle applies here. See WP:COMMONNAME.   az talk   07:43, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - For consistency reasons, the titles of all the holiday event pages should have identically formatted titles. Furthermore, since not all events have specific names, changing the format of the unnamed events would present greater hassle and confusion than the current system would. Right now, the Jagex names of events redirect to their proper pages, so there is no reason to change it. --Liquidhelium 03:38, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Just makes things more complicated. Abyssal whip.png Superplayer08Talk HS Log Dragon dagger (p++).png 03:57, February 6, 2010 (UTC)superplayer08

Still Support - Everything we have done on this wiki is to be consistent with RuneScape, no matter how inconvenient. That same mindset should be applied here too. Everyone who says "that is how everyone knows it by", that is exactly what redirects are for. scoot4.pngscooties 07:13, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - It would be much easier for players to find the holiday event page if it was listed as [YEAR] [HOLIDAY] event, regardless of what it is called in-game. To find a compromise between the two would be to simply put the format as [YEAR] [HOLIDAY] Event - [NAME SEEN ON RUNESCAPE WEBSITE] (eg. 2009 Easter Event - Splitting Heirs). --Knight5hadow 07:31, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

A redirect would be placed so users could search for the event by date and it will redirect to the new name. scoot4.pngscooties 20:37, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Per superplayer FredeTalk 21:04, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Comment/(Still Support) - Is "A Christmas Warble" really that uncommon of a name? White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 01:34, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is. And so is Splitting Heirs. They are commonly known as the 2009 Christmas, and the 2009 Easter events, respectively.   az talk   07:20, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Also, unless you support individual numbers, know that by saying "Support" that you're supporting all three of my proposals. I'll start separate discussions next time. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 01:40, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

So by Az's logic, we should rename almost all platelegs armour types to "-type of metal- Legs". That is because most people calls them Rune Legs not Rune Platelegs and it's the more common name. That is just one out of many examples out there. scoot4.pngscooties 01:59, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
No. That was not my point. My point is that, for events, it would be more appropriate if we used the more common name rather than the official in-game name. There are more unnamed events than named events, and IMO, it would be better to have a standardised naming convention for events. I never mentioned using common names for items.   az talk   07:20, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Support - this is an encyclopedia of runescape. It is more encyclopedic to put the correct names in my humble opinion, and redirects will solve any confusion. 76.100.172.186 11:48, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - What if people don't know the name of the event? Construction-icon.png Matt is Me / Harmonising / Lvl 3 skils3 Talk Cooking cape (t).png 08:29, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Redirects? White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 14:16, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Question - If someone wrote out an ordered list of the names of the (Easter Holiday Events) year-by-year, what would it look like? --TheLastWordSword 16:22, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Current Proposed
  • 2002 Easter event
  • 2003 Easter event
  • 2005 Easter event
  • 2006 Easter event
  • 2007 Easter event
  • 2008 Easter event
  • 2009 Easter event
  • 2010 Easter event
  • Easter 2002
  • Easter 2003
  • Easter 2005
  • Easter 2006
  • Easter 2007
  • Easter 2008
  • Splitting Heirs
  • Egg-streme Management

  az talk   18:22, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Added 2010 event --Chicken7 00:57, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Though what above does look a bit odd, that is how Jagex has it and that is how we should too. scoot4.pngscooties 02:56, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't matter that it looks odd - the only reason they would be listed like that is on a disambiguation page. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 03:06, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Just make redirect pages when somebody searches and you can name them by their proper names. I think that would work fine...unless somebody has a reason it doesn't? --HaloTalk 04:24, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah that's what I don't get when people oppose. Redirects will solve it. scoot4.pngscooties 03:19, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Jed/FS. --Coolnesse 04:09, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Per superplayer08 (it will only make things more complicated).  Ranged-icon.png Zap0i TalkRune scimitar.png  04:15, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - People dont really know the events name so keeping it at 2009 Christmas event keeps it simple for everyone. Right? Herblore Supawilko 19:38, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Redirects can solve the problem of people not being able to get to the right article, so that argument's down. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 21:06, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
That argument still holds for categories, i.e. Category:2009 Christmas event, where someone is looking for articles related to the 2009 Christmas event. Redirecting categories is messy and not recommended, see Wikipedia:Redirects#Category_redirects.   az talk   13:01, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
True - I hadn't thought about categories. Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 15:17, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
It wouldn't be that hard... I don't think that "too much work" is a very good reason to oppose, anyway. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 01:00, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

[Resetting] I am not talking about work. I'm talking about the technical stuff, such as the flow of the category structure. Look at the categories from bottom-up: Category:Events > Category:Holiday events > Category:2009 Christmas event. The articles may be redirected, but what about the category? I don't think calling it "Category:Christmas Warble" would be a good idea. People looking for the 2009 Christmas event at Category:Holiday events would not be able to find it. And, as I pointed out earlier, creating category redirects is not recommended because of limitations in the mediawiki software, not because it is too much work.   az talk   21:21, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Then why not just leave the category as is? According to the [[https://runescape.wiki/wiki/RS:STYLE#Article_titles%7Cpolicy, the article title should be " titled exactly as the subject's name appears in-game". You can just have "2010 easter" redirect to "Egg-streme Management". --Armadyl symbol.png Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law.png 20:25, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
And I am really getting tired of people quoting the style "policy". For one thing, it is not a policy, but rather a guideline... hence the title STYLE GUIDE. I quote the first paragraph of the style guide:
This style guide has the simple purpose of making the RuneScape Wiki easy to read by establishing a certain format. One way is often as good as another, but if everyone does things the same way, the articles will be easier to read and use, along with being easier to write and edit. Reading the style guide is important to ensure that each user's edits will be consistent with those of other users.
This means that while it is encouraged that we follow the style guide, we can make exceptions. The holidays articles should be one such exception. Earlier, I had clarified the paragraph in the style guide to say that we CANNOT have every single subject titled as they appear in-game. I quote my own edit:
However, this rule should not be followed blindly and applied for every single subject encountered in the game. For example, "2/3 cake" is located in ⅔ cake due to the technical restrictions which exist in the software. In cases where the in-game name is ambiguous, disambiguation is necessary, such as Swamp toad (creature) and Swamp toad, the item.
Besides, if we left the categories as they are, and move/redirect the articles, there would be no consistency. Remember that the main purpose for the style guide is consistency.   az talk   07:22, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
The paragraph you quote does not seem to apply here. "2/3 cake", as stated, si a technical restriction, while "Swamp toad (creature)" differentiates it from the Swamp Toad item. What is the excuse for Holiday articles? Furthermore, if it is a problem with Categories, why not just title the articles something along the lines of "Egg-streme Management (Easter 2010)" ? --Armadyl symbol.png Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law.png 14:58, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
That would be too complicated. I'd rather have it the way it is now. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 20:36, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

[Resetting] I was pointing out this (This style guide has the simple purpose of making the RuneScape Wiki easy to read by establishing a certain format. One way is often as good as another, but if everyone does things the same way, the articles will be easier to read and use, along with being easier to write and edit.) and this (However, this rule should not be followed blindly and applied for every single subject encountered in the game.)

The "2/3 cake" and "swamp toad" were just examples. The point I was trying to make is that we can make exceptions to the "official name only" rule. My "excuse" is, as I mentioned above, standardisation.   az talk   09:57, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Firstly: What is so complicated about it, C Teng? It would be no different from things such as Swamp toad (creature) Secondly: I think that the offical name rule should supersede standardisation. If it becomes a problem, the event holiday and year could be added to the article title in parentheses. 65.30.18.7 17:39, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
The above comment was mine. I had not realized I wasn't logged in. --Armadyl symbol.png Nightgunner Talk Illuminated Book of Law.png 17:42, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Support 1 and 3, Neutral on 2 - I'm considering that Easter 2008 is pretty much just a different way of saying 2008 Easter event. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 03:00, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose: Agreeing with Supawilko, saying "2009 Christmas event" is less ambiguous than saying "A Christmas Warble". I also wish to say that for some reason, on C Teng's signature, it says "The Gedge" instead of "C Teng" which is a bit weird, HE'S STALKING ME! Rune hatchet.png The Gedge Tinderbox.png 14:08, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

About the sig thing - April fools joke. It automatically puts the name of the user viewing it there, instead of his Wink Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 16:17, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - To be consistent, all holiday articles should have names that follow the same format. It is easier to look at 2009 Easter event, 2010 Easter event, than it is to look at Splitting Heirs, Egg-streme Management. It also is less confusing as to which year the event is. --LiquidTalk 17:44, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I was just reading this over and realized I already voted at the end of January. As such, I am striking my second vote. Sorry. --LiquidTalk 23:41, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
  • Strong Support - Jagex almost always calls them by their proper name, so we should too. I do think we should have a redirect from the old pages. -- Ancient staff.png Ilovetopk Talk Contribs Sign! HS Abyssal whip (white).png 14:21, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Closed - There is no consensus to change the names of holiday event articles, and as such we default to the status quo with our current naming convention for holiday events: [YEAR] [HOLIDAY] event. C.ChiamTalk 09:41, April 8, 2010 (UTC)