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This thread was archived on 2 May 2018 by Salix of Prifddinas.

Since Mod Jack released this document I have been wondering if there is a better way to handle the information. Currently, we have two pages called [[Saradomin's Battle Tactics]] and [[Zamorak's Battle Tactics]] and pages for all the individual troops, as listed in this navbox ({{Second and Third Age Army Composition}}). This seems at odds with how we normally do things: most of the troops' pages are stubs that can't be expanded and they make little sense in isolation; the page name of "x’s battle tactics" is not a term that appears in game or in the document.

I am not good with lore but I have given this some thought and I think that a good solution would be to move the battle tactics pages to either sections on or subpages of their respective god’s pages; i.e. Saradomin/Military for Saradomin's Battle Tactics. This is more consistent with how we usually organise pages and allows the information to be linked to a relevant, more prominent page (the associated god's page). The pages can be organised by age as they are now, which would make sense for integrating them with other pages e.g. pages about battles in particular ages could link to the section on the god's military tactics in that age. I do not think that it is necessary to have pages about each rank; it makes much more sense for this information to all be on one page, with terms redirecting back to that page. The same standardisation should be applied for other military information i.e. RuneScape:Requests for merging/Second Age Zarosian ranks or any information that is released in future.


Support - as proposer. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 14:58, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

Support - Per Iso. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 16:04, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

Support - We're either making a bunch of stubs that are likely to never be expanded in the future, or creating a good new standard for page information. I'd rather do what has been proposed here than make a bunch of useless pages. Just stick redirects on them and I'm happy! Amascut symbol.png Amascut Ia Morte 17:35, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

Support - On the condition that [[Saradomin/Military for Saradomin's Battle Tactics]] or some other variant thereof becomes the linked to page. I dislike how cluttered individual Gods' pages are getting, which is why I created individual pages, for clarity sake. As well I thought these things would be at odds with the format of the existing God history pages. Just be sure to add redirects, and I'm on board. Elf of Seren (talk) 18:04, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

Redirects and a link (with the {{Main}} template) to the subpage from the main god page would be made automatically if the pages were to be merged into one subpage of the god. :) Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 22:29, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

Support - subpages are good Star Talk ayy lmao ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 00:26, March 17, 2018 (UTC)

Copy the documents verbatim into the Transcript namespace and stick {{Lore}} at the top, keep pages for individual troops if desired - This would be consistent with how we handle other lore stuff that's come up, see Category:Lores and Histories. The base page that the information is derived from is copied verbatim, and we have individual subpages for important people or features in the lore articles that can expand more on what has been stated. Each lore page in that category has several subpages, and I think being consistent with what we have done in the past is a good way to handle this. --LiquidTalk 00:27, March 17, 2018 (UTC)

Support - It would also make sense to mention or include them in the Gielinorian God Wars article, the War Tactics section in particular. NeutralinoTalk?This is a pale wisp. 00:47, March 17, 2018 (UTC)

The doc doesn't explicitly mention which wars the tactics relate to but I hope someone more knowledgeable than me can sort this linking out :P Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 13:24, March 17, 2018 (UTC)
Many of the races (e.g. centaurs) mentioned came tae Gielinor during the Third Age, sae I think we can reasonably assume God Wars What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 02:50, March 18, 2018 (UTC)
It is an extension from the RuneFest talk which specifically specified the 2nd and 3rd ages. The wars of the second age are specific to the rest of the Gods vs. Zaros, and the entirety of the third age was the God Wars, so technically it does. Elf of Seren (talk) 17:25, March 18, 2018 (UTC)

Support Liquid's proposal minus the template - I believe we did this fer the Prifddinas design docs. However the lore template is meant fer the official lores and histories posted oan the RuneScape website I believe What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 02:50, March 18, 2018 (UTC)

Change Support to Liquid's proposal - This is what I was originally going for when I created the pages, however I still believe that a subpage for military tactics would be needed, so probably just rename the two tactics pages into their respective subpages. Elf of Seren (talk) 17:39, March 18, 2018 (UTC)

Support - Would be clearer imo than the way it's currently organised NYX TRYX | E 10:01, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Closed - The documents can be copied to their own pages in the Transcript namespace with the {{Lore}} template at the top of the page as per Liquid's proposal. Farming-icon.png Salix of Prifddinas (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 07:01, May 2, 2018 (UTC)