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Hi. Just to explain that this thread was originally created by Dalek Sec to propose the first 4 friends chats. I have changed the formatting of the thread so that each FC has its own section to allow further nominations to be made on this thread by other users, rather than having multiple threads about this. Hopefully I have preserved the content of the of the discussion so far - please feel free to amend how I have edited your comments if you want to.

Please consider the guidelines on RuneScape:Whitelisted Friends Chats. Additionally it may be helpful to state which page(s) that you think the template should be added to if the nomination is successful.

Magic logs detail.pngIsobelTalk page 11:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Slayer Dungs

Purpose: Sharing and hosting personal slayer dungeons in the sunken pyramid for players over 99 slayer. For example, if a player wants to kill some Capsarii they can go to this FC and see if there's someone online with these monsters in their slayer dungeon. All dungeons offered by the people in the fc are 100% free of charge.
Extra info: RS Forums thread & Spreadsheet used by the FC

My contributions Dalek SecTalk to me 19:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - This space suit the criteria for whitelisting FCs. It is a perfect examples of how this system should be utilised. Grace (talk) 08:41, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - slayer dungs\' spreadsheet was last updated 2019, and the FC doesn't look active at all. Elkswampdog (talk) 09:05, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - Per above jayden 11:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Elk. Talk to Kelsey 12:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Apparently the spreadsheet was made defunct a while ago, but despite this, having observed the friends chat ingame, it still doesn't seem active enough for me to support. Talk to Kelsey 23:55, 1 December 2021 (UTC)


Oppose - Elaine (talk) 02:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - I personally believe player run systems shouldn't be on the wiki which is for in-game documentation, however the Wiki performs an ancillary task of facilitating gameplay (some people view this as the primary function) and due to that gameplay is improved by FCs being mentioned in relevant articles. Not having FCs on the Wiki in the first place is also an easy way to avoid the messiness of individuals. Elaine (talk) 03:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
We had a discussion about reversing the rule against FC mentions on the wiki open for 3 months, closed 3 days ago. It would have been helpful to comment in the original discussion if you feel so strongly about this. It is of course your prerogative, but it's not really helpful to blanket oppose all the nominations at the point when we've moved on to deciding FCs' suitability based on the criteria that has already been discussed in the previous thread. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelTalk page 12:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - just clarifying, the FC is indeed active and has been consistently active since Menaphos was released. The old spreadsheet not being maintained doesn't make the FC inactive. Grace (talk) 02:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - the FC may not be active all the time but I'm assuming its not completely dead. It's 2021 and the playerbase is smaller than it was in the past - I'm not sure expecting constant activity for chats is realistic for most activities. This seems like it still has some activity and would be useful for players. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelTalk page 12:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - There was no consensus to go ahead with this proposal in the previous discussion, hence I have to oppose all nominations. 5-x (Talk) 15:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Are we reading the same forum thread? User talk:InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:InvalidCards InvalidCards Special:Contributions/InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/InvalidCards 15:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I don't know what forum thread you're reading, sorry. 5-x (Talk) 16:06, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
How do you reason there was no consensus in the original thread despite the closing statement clearly saying there is? User talk:InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:InvalidCards InvalidCards Special:Contributions/InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/InvalidCards 16:07, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I read the (very short) discussion under the original proposal. There were more reservations about parts of the proposal than actual support. The topic was not sufficiently debated, despite being open for three months. This topic raises as many questions as the idea to put advertisements for Discord servers in mainspace, and requires strong support before it can be proceed with. Since silence does not imply consensus, that forum should really have been closed in a different fashion. 5-x (Talk) 16:28, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
Do you disagree with the result? As you point out, 3 months is a fair amount of time where you voiced no concerns and consensus is formed by those who participate. It seems like you're obscuring your disagreement with a thin point of process instead of raising any real objections. cqm talk 19:08, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Comment - This particular section is going to be difficult for anyone to close - there's 2 supports, 2 opposes (from people who have opposed all of them for the same reason), and 3 opposes from people on the basis that a spreadsheet hasn't been active in a while. This seems to be somewhat of a misunderstanding - the few times I've checked the FC there's been 20-30 people in there. Does anyone have anything more to add? ʞooɔ 22:28, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Support - An active FC is enough for me. cqm talk 21:22, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Support - The FC is consistently active and will hopefully become more active as a result of whitelisting. The spreadsheet itself isn't actively maintained anymore, but the intended behavior is to ask in chat for a specific creature and someone in the chat will reply if they have the creature available in their dungeon. Niche creatures can be difficult to find especially during inactive hours, but most of the popular ones are always available from several people in the chat. Gnrl Kitty the Wikian 20:51, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Comment - I should add that the spreadsheet being defunct is a symptom of the spreadsheet being unrealistic to maintain rather than a symptom of inactivity in the FC. The spreadsheet can't tell the user if a player listed in the spreadsheet is online, which causes users to go down the list entering each name into the join box in-game until finally finding someone online. Or, they could join the FC and check if the user is online. But they could also be online but not in the FC so that isn't reliable either. They could add them in-game, but then they could have just entered the name into the join box to discovered they're not online. In any scenario it ends up that it would have been faster to simply join the FC and ask if a monster is available. Therefore, the spreadsheet become a waste to continue maintaining. I can also tell you that players would have themselves added to the spreadsheet and then never submit an update when they change the creatures they have, or simply stop playing the game and add useless bloat to the list. Gnrl Kitty the Wikian 22:11, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Support - This FC has existed for quite some time now and has always done well at providing a useful service to the community. A spreadsheet being inactive doesn't mean that the FC is defunct. In this case the FC became popular enough where the spreadsheet became pointless to maintain. XTG0X (talk) 22:14, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Closed - There is no consensus on whitelisting the Slayer Dungs friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Soulobby

Purpose: Calling out the locations of soul obelisks, scarabs, corrupted eggs and cats found in Menaphos
Extra info: RS Forums thread

My contributions Dalek SecTalk to me 19:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - This space suit the criteria for whitelisting FCs. It is a perfect examples of how this system should be utilised. Grace (talk) 08:41, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Fine as per my original proposal. Elkswampdog (talk) 09:05, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - jayden 11:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Have always been a good friends chat ever since Menaphos release. Talk to Kelsey 12:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Used them quite a bit when Menaphos released. Jakesterwars (talk) 14:02, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Really good FC for getting rep and chilling LapOnTheMoon (talk)

Oppose - Elaine (talk) 02:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - Read above comment Elaine (talk) 03:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Suppot - Smithing.pngHephaestus (formerly Aescopalus) talkCrafting.png 03:40, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Great FC! Used it many a times. Only downside to this is that it doesn't seem to be very well moderated (at least not in my experience). Coins 10000.png Yurple Talk Coins 10000.png 08:42, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Magic logs detail.pngIsobelTalk page 12:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - 5-x (Talk) 15:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Support User talk:InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:InvalidCards InvalidCards Special:Contributions/InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/InvalidCards 15:49, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Seaport Kags (talk) 10:33, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Support Cache117 (talk) 16:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Closed - There is consensus on whitelisting the Soulobby friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Whirlpooldnd

Purpose: Calling out whenever a random event occurs at the Deep Sea Fishing hub, with a focus on the Travelling merchant
Extra info: Discord server

My contributions Dalek SecTalk to me 19:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - This space suit the criteria for whitelisting FCs. It is a perfect examples of how this system should be utilised. Grace (talk) 08:41, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Fine as per my original proposal. Elkswampdog (talk) 09:05, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - Is the original owner ("Ai" or something?) of this friends chat still associated with it? I seem to remember them causing several problems in the community and not sure I'd be particularly be comfortable associating with them directly/indirectly. jayden 11:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - Same concerns as Jayden above. They had a lot of political issues with their leaders and I'm not sure where that stands currently. Talk to Kelsey 12:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - After some discussion with Luke in discord, seems like Ai isn't around anymore, which alleviates my concerns Talk to Kelsey 16:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - WhirlpoolDnd does seem to meet the current criteria. In regards to the comments above, "Ai" still is the owner of the Discord and the FC account. However, it is the leaders (I am one of four) that actively manage and maintain both. Past issues are not representative of the community we are now and should not be part of the current considerations. Thank you Dalek Sec for the nomination. Luke H (talk) 13:57, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

So Ai still has complete control? Talk to Kelsey 14:00, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Just as any owner would, yes. For the last couple years he has left the management of the Discord and FC to the team of Leaders. Luke H (talk) 14:10, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Then I'm changing my vote to oppose. As long as Ai is the leader and has control to do what he wants, I'm not comfortable supporting this. Talk to Kelsey 14:17, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
That's fair, I respect your vote. Just as a reminder for others reading this discussion that the main objective here is to include Friends Chats based on players finding them helpful. Who the owner is and how it is managed is irrelevant. Luke H (talk) 14:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
For the benefit of others who may read this and not be familiar with how consensus works, while you or I may consider a piece of rationale irrelevant, a consensus-based system is built on how well opposing parties put their point across. I can put forward an argument, but it's relevance is determined by whether others agree or disagree with it. We don't constrain what a relevant argument is upfront because it evolves with the discussion and is decided by who participates in the discussion.
In this case, I think it's fair game to question the management of the FC if there are concerns, but I appreciate the clarification that past incidents no longer reflect the management of the FC today. cqm talk 21:36, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - Elaine (talk) 02:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - Read above comment Elaine (talk) 03:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - the above discussion regarding Ai is completely irrelevant to the purpose of FC whitelisting. The political and interpersonal issues of a singular person hold absolutely no bearing on the usefulness of the FC for the average player. This FC has consistently been the single most active activity-based FC in Runescape since inception, and meets all the criteria entirely. The rationale to refuse it based on some issues with the original founder is self-serving subjective, imbalanced - and as previously stated, it is irrelevant to the purpose of this project. Grace (talk) 02:52, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Not At This Time - Not disputing on prevalence or utility, but some of the comments and history aren't giving me a ton of confidence for our inaugural round of whitelisted FCs. Smithing.pngHephaestus (formerly Aescopalus) talkCrafting.png 03:40, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - I would normally give this a support, but I do know some of the historical drama behind this. A HUGE caveat to that is this: the administrators that are there (and essentiallyl in charge of it) are absolutely fabolous. I know several of them help the Aarchaelogy Team and they've done wonders. I think that if there could be some co-ownership involved, it'd be perfect. Unfortunately I know this is public information, and I really hope I don't get retalation from it, but I don't think it's appropriate for the owner of this FC discord about me to advertise gold swapping. Fix those 2 issues, and I'm all on-board! The FC itself is amazing. Coins 10000.png Yurple Talk Coins 10000.png 08:42, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - It seems like the administrators have really taken the suggestions here and put them into practice! Hat's off to them, and I change my comment to a support. Coins 10000.png Yurple Talk Coins 10000.png 23:21, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Support - I'm inclined to give this the benefit of the doubt. I can appreciate everyone's points here about wanting to ensure that we're not associated with chats that are unpleasant but I feel like overall this chat is useful to players, notwithstanding that it may or may not be the best environment. The examples given are mostly relating to the original owner and from some time ago; even recent examples from the forum post are individual player complaints played out over several years.

In any case I really don't think its wise for us to go down the road of assessing whether a friends chat meets an arbitrary level of being a "nice enough" environment for us to associate with it. The emphasis in the original proposal was for the mentions to be heavily caveated by us saying that we do not endorse the chats and I feel strongly that this is the best way to deal with these concerns. In nearly all cases there is not going to be anything concrete for us to point to say that a chat is so truly toxic/unhelpful that we don't want to mention it at all and we'd just be going off second hand complaints about players' experiences. I strongly doubt that there is any RuneScape community where there are not players who have complaints about it or where there is not drama from time to time. I also really dislike the appearance of us setting ourselves up as if we are some kind of gold standard community with the right to cast judgment on others. We are not and discussion along these lines reflects poorly on us. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelTalk page 12:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - 5-x (Talk) 15:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Support - while there may have been some management issues in the past, Whirlpooldnd is still the de facto friends' chat for finding merchants, and its importance and popularity among the playerbase should not be overlooked. User talk:InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:InvalidCards InvalidCards Special:Contributions/InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/InvalidCards 15:49, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Seaport - I agree with the concerns, which are definitely valid. I would still give my seaport since Whirlpooldnd fc is an inherent part of DailyScape, which is the name of the game we all play. Kags (talk) 10:36, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Support Cache117 (talk) 16:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Closed - There is consensus on whitelisting the Whirlpooldnd friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

FishFlingers

Purpose: Helping people to obtain the various rewards from Fish Flingers (such as the Fishing outfit for bonus XP and the Tackle boxes for the trimmed completionist cape) by playing the activity together and coordinating calls for the right combinations
Extra info: RS Forums thread

My contributions Dalek SecTalk to me 19:37, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - This space suit the criteria for whitelisting FCs. It is a perfect examples of how this system should be utilised. Grace (talk) 08:41, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Fine as per my original proposal. Elkswampdog (talk) 09:05, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - jayden 11:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Talk to Kelsey 12:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Jakesterwars (talk) 14:02, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - Elaine (talk) 02:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - Read above comment Elaine (talk) 03:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Smithing.pngHephaestus (formerly Aescopalus) talkCrafting.png 03:40, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Magic logs detail.pngIsobelTalk page 12:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - LapOnTheMoon (talk) 04:38, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - 5-x (Talk) 15:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Support User talk:InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:InvalidCards InvalidCards Special:Contributions/InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/InvalidCards 15:49, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Seaport - Especially since it's required for Trimmed Comp. Kags (talk) 10:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Support Cache117 (talk) 16:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Weak Support - Fish Flingers world already accomplishes a lot, but an official FC would help... {{Signatures/Mordenkian}} 17:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Closed - There is consensus on whitelisting the FishFlingers friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Minigames

Organising activities around minigames on spotlight and coordinate D&Ds such as Warbands and Goebiebands. RSOF

Discussion

Support - as nominator Elkswampdog (talk) 11:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - My contributions Dalek SecTalk to me 16:19, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Magic logs detail.pngIsobelTalk page 12:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Forgot to give this support earlier. Hopefully this gets more newbies into Minigames! Coins 10000.png Yurple Talk Coins 10000.png 18:55, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - 5-x (Talk) 15:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Support User talk:InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:InvalidCards InvalidCards Special:Contributions/InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/InvalidCards 15:49, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Support LapOnTheMoon (talk) 05:06, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Seaport - Anyone know how active the FC is in 2022? Kags (talk) 10:38, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Closed - There is consensus on whitelisting the Minigames friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

World60pengs

Weekly Penguin Hide and Seek hunt. The definitive penguin hunting and trapping organisation. RSOF

Discussion

Support - as nominator Elkswampdog (talk) 11:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - jayden 11:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Would we mention their website as well, which is heavily used/updated? Wasn't aware they weren't related. Regardless, support Talk to Kelsey 12:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Would also agree with the website mention that KelseW mentioned. Jakesterwars (talk) 14:02, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Shayani (talk) 14:28, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - The website is not controlled by Team Penguin, and mention of it in the F.C. is not allowed. -VoidLordXian, Team Peng Captain  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.178.77.134 (talk) on 16:00, 28 October 2021 (UTC).

Support - My contributions Dalek SecTalk to me 16:19, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - Elaine (talk) 02:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - Read above comment Elaine (talk) 03:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Suits this project and has been a positive community FC for years upon years. Grace (talk) 02:56, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Magic logs detail.pngIsobelTalk page 12:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - 5-x (Talk) 15:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Support User talk:InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:InvalidCards InvalidCards Special:Contributions/InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/InvalidCards 15:49, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Support - LapOnTheMoon (talk) 18:43, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Seaport - In fact, I'm about to use them right now, for WeeklyScape! Kags (talk) 10:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Support Cache117 (talk) 16:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Support - cqm talk 21:23, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Closed - There is consensus on whitelisting the World60pengs friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Corehunting

The FC organises Hall of Memories core parties for fast divination XP. Was the fastest divination xp in the game pre-rework, not sure about post-rework but they look to still be active especially around DXP. Discord

Discussion

Support - as nominator Elkswampdog (talk) 11:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Talk to Kelsey 12:04, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Shayani (talk) 14:28, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - My contributions Dalek SecTalk to me 16:19, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - LapOnTheMoon (talk) 16:26, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - Elaine (talk) 02:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - Read above comment Elaine (talk) 03:48, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Grace (talk) 02:54, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment - Great FC, serves a great niche purpose, however the Original Owner, Insulate, is very busy with IRL stuff. My previous experience there was that there was quite a bit of unnecessary drama, but I'm hopeful that it's been taken care of since then. Coins 10000.png Yurple Talk Coins 10000.png 08:42, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Support - Magic logs detail.pngIsobelTalk page 12:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - 5-x (Talk) 15:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Support User talk:InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of User talk:InvalidCards InvalidCards Special:Contributions/InvalidCards.png: RS3 Inventory image of Special:Contributions/InvalidCards 15:49, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Wait - Need to see activity in 2022, especially since the Divination rework. Kags (talk) 10:41, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Support - This FC is pretty much a requirement for anyone wanting to train Divination. They're reliable, efficient, and they moderate their chat relatively well. Swyllikx of Guthix (level: 138)  Choose OptionTalk to Swyllikx of Guthix (level: 138)Follow Swyllikx of Guthix (level: 138)Report Swyllikx of Guthix (level: 138)Contributions Swyllikx of Guthix (level: 138)Walk hereExamine Swyllikx of Guthix (level: 138)Cancel 07:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Closed - There is consensus on whitelisting the Corehunting friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Boss Guild

The FC organises Lootshare/Coinshare bossing masses, including frequent World Events as part of the Pmod Pink Skirts events. Also a strong teaching element to the FC, and small team bossing organization. My thought is it could be listed on Soul Reaper/Marks of War pages, as well as for the relevant Yak Track tasks. Discord, Forum thread 𝓡𝓪𝓯 21:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - as nominator 𝓡𝓪𝓯 21:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - There's lots of bossing discords out there, I'm not a fan of singling one out. Talk to Kelsey 21:36, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Support - The fact that the Pink Skirts are associated with them is a strong pointer of Boss Guild's quality and trustworthiness. My contributions Dalek SecTalk to me 08:38, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Kel's Sea. Not sure what we get out of affiliating with multiple bossing mass FCs HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 02:50, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Kelsey. Gnrl Kitty the Wikian 22:23, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Closed - There is no consensus on whitelisting the Boss Guild friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Vis Wax FC

Purpose: This FC informs players which runes go in the first and second slots of the Rune Goldberg Machine by changing its name to abbreviations of the runes' names. For example the current chat name once joined is "Ch Du Na Bl". This means that Chaos runes go in the first slot and the other three, dust, nature, and blood, are the possibilities for slot number two. If any runes are too expensive, asking the FC for alts for a particular rune always yields an answer within a couple of seconds to a minute. The chat is always very active. In fact, I tabbed back into the game to find that someone asked for alts while I was writing this. As stated, the response was very swift. Keep in mind that it's currently three in the morning here. "No mn law ai" means no alt for chaos and you can probably piece together the rest.

Whenever the post on the RuneScape forums isn't updated for whatever reason, this FC is where I go. The forum post goes several hours without being updated after reset quite often. The day after Christmas the post wasn't updated at all, and it's not the first time either. Not that I'm blaming them for not being perfect or something. It happens. But in my experience using the FC, the runes have always been up to date mere minutes after reset every single day. I don't even use the forum post anymore because it's just extra work, especially when the game decides to crash randomly during a tab-out to the browser. On weekly resets, sometimes penguin locations are called out here and there, or other such useful locations of things. I recall using the FC to locate a wandering event NPC once but can't remember who or what for. Unless there's something I don't know about them, they seem like a good FC to have on the whitelist.

Pet cat (purple) chathead.png Graystripe meow 07:48, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

Comment - Just so everyone knows, this FC is already affiliated with the wiki through Discord affiliation. Which doesn't stop them from being whitelisted as an FC as well. Just wanted to let you know. Farming-icon.png Salix (Talk) Prifddinas lodestone icon.png 08:38, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Seaport - Might be biased since I live in this fc when I'm online and not doing other DailyScape/WeeklyScape. Kags (talk) 10:43, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Support - They maintain the wiki pages each day too, it makes sense for the FC to be referred to as well. Micha (talk) 20:09, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Support - Per Micha. Gnrl Kitty the Wikian 22:23, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Closed - There is consensus on whitelisting the Vis Wax FC friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)


This request for closure is complete A user has requested closure for FC nominations for whitelisting. Request complete. The reason given was: With the exception of Slayer Dungs, Boss Guilds, and Vis Wax FC (WhirlpoolDND looks 50/50 but looks to have achieved consensus imo) which either are opposef or can be broken out into separate threads, all other FC associations appear to pass. The thread has been open since October, and should be closed for the initial round, with Boss Guilds and Vis Wax welcome to apply as a separate Yew Grove thread (otherwise new FCs will probably continue to be added, FCs won't be associated due to ongoing discussions, and this thread won't end.

Smithing.pngHephaestus talkCrafting.png 17:26, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Fast Sc

Purpose: Non-combat 'fast' Stealing Creation games. Fast Sc is the official friends chat for consistent and fast Stealing Creation games. By clearing all the nodes in game before the 20 minute mark (which ends the game) we assure the fastest possible stealing creation points. BXP/Outfits/Thaler are the expected rewards. We have been active for 13 years and are proudly affiliated with many RS communities thanks to Discord. Current owners : Ang3l F1sh and Thundercats

Extra info: Forums thread An example of our monthly calendar

Jen (talk) 02:14, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

Closed - There is no consensus on whitelisting the Fast Sc friends chat at this time. However, since this was added much later after the thread's creation and has no current discussion, anyone is welcome to create a separate thread for this friends chat. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Conclusion

Closed - Per this thread, all the friends chat that have received consensus will be added to the whitelist and the whitelisted FC template will be put on relevant mainspace articles.

The friends chat that passed consensus are:

  • Soulobby
  • Whirlpooldnd
  • FishFlingers
  • Minigames
  • World60Pengs
  • Corehunting
  • Vis Wax FC

And thus, a thread that's been open for close to 5 months is closed. Talk to Kelsey 23:22, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Post-closure addition - I've added the template to these pages:
Soulobby - Soul obelisk (Menaphos), Corrupted Scarab (Menaphos), Cats of Menaphos and Corrupted egg.
Whirlpooldnd - Deep Sea Fishing, Whirlpool (Deep Sea Fishing), Travelling merchant, Travelling Merchant's Shop, Arkaneo, Sea monster, Whale, Jellyfish (giant) and Jellyfish (small).
FishFlingers - Fish Flingers
Minigames - Minigames
World60Pengs - Penguin Hide and Seek and Distractions and Diversions/Locations/Penguin Hide and Seek
Corehunting - Hall of Memories
Vis Wax FC - Vis wax and Rune Goldberg Machine Talk to Kelsey 23:42, 7 March 2022 (UTC)