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This thread was archived on 24 May 2021 by Liquidhelium.

In collaboration with the Vis Wax FC Discord server I created a module and template that predict the optimum rune combinations for the Rune Goldberg Machine per day. The actual code was developed by members of the FC with help from Cook and they gave it to me, asking that they get credit in a similar vain too Forum:Adding Portables Locations. The template is {{Rune goldberg machine}} and the default implementation is:

DateSlot 1Slot 2Slot 3
Opt 1Opt 2Opt 3
21 Jun 2021Mist rune.png Mist runeDeath rune.png Death runeBody rune.png Body runeCosmic rune.png Cosmic runeRandom
Combinations in collaboration with Vis Wax FC discord server

I'm open to changes to the template layout (see complete set of examples in my namespace), and the module also has api and helper module endpoints.

Please Support or Oppose adding the template (with the Combinations in collaboration with Vis Wax FC discord server part), however feel free to leave comments on the layout/styling etc.

Discussion

Support - As nominator. Seers headband 2 chathead.png Elessar2 (talk) 14:29, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Comment - Nice! Looks great, and I'm pretty confident Elessar's work completely matches my code's output. Super excited for this to be in everyones' hands at last. The Omikron (talk) 18:04, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Support - Collaborations like this are always welcomed in my eyes. --Legaia2Pla · ʟ · 18:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Comment - The only thing I'd change is the layout to vertical and maybe add a "Slot 3" that signifies that it's random and perhaps something to denote the RC cape perk? One question though - how will the updating work? Will it continue to fetch the most up to date data for say 10-30 minutes post reset time? /bren/tc 22:14, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

I assume it would be on the Rune Goldberg Machine page, which would have that detail already. It looks like it would be similar to the Travelling Merchant's Shop, so it would be already projected and known. crazye97 (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes the template functions similar to tms stock in that it will update daily (may require page purge). There's also ways to view future/past dates (see my page). I used horizontal in this case because I thought it used space on pages better (though maybe not on mobile), the version with prices uses vertical. Seers headband 2 chathead.png Elessar2 (talk) 22:27, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Support I like the link provided to our Discord. Thank you! It mentions our fc and links our disc too. Be cool to see Vis Wax Fc link our forum thread with a / between Discord Server linking our discord. The layout appears to tell you to use Rune 1 Rune 2 Rune 3 as a combination. I think just Slot 2 would be less confusing. I do like the cost values next to the runes on the other layouts too. Total cost is nice to know. Thanks to everyone involved!! It's been a ton of work for us. I can't wait until we have enough information to predict the alternative values as well. Crazy and I will keep going until we can predict it all. Well probably not slot 3. We'll try though. Sloth Rider (talk)

Support - This is great work for the algorithms and a benefit to link on the wiki; by partnering, we can also encourage more collaborations like this in the future. Smithing.pngAescopalus talkCrafting.png 20:43, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Support - thanks to everyone who collaborated on this. I support adding this collaboration and crediting the vis wax fc. It's great to see the wiki partnering with other parts of the RuneScape community who have valuable knowledge about game content.

I agree with Bren's feedback on adding information on slot 3 being random and having some information about the skillcape perk being able to tell you which rune is best. If the fc were able to help support with this it may also be good to add information on alternative runes and their cost effectiveness like vis wax fc do in their forum thread. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 11:28, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

What kind of help would be needed to be able to add the alternative runes? We can't predict them yet perfectly but I would be willing to contribute. It is only smart to have and use the alternative runes. I would be willing to add them at reset until we can predict them. I could do it after I do the forum. Sloth Rider (talk) 23:31, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Issue here - giving values and such can become confusing, especially when there are cases where runes can be shifted around - for example, if Earth is in slot 1, but is better in slots 2 or 3 with a different rune in 1, what do we do then? I think giving the list and listing the server like with Portables is sufficient - if people want to find more info, they can do so without anyone having to update numerous locations daily. crazye97 (talk) 05:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
A simple explanation and the 2 best alternatives. Same as we do now. I wouldn't mind updating it. I only update the forum and the data we collect. Seems only smart to add the most valuable runes. Sloth Rider (talk)

Support - It's great to see this kind of stuff coming from collaboration work! As others have aleady said, there should be a note that slot 3 is random. I also think that the second table in your sandbox (with the prices) should be used as is a little more informative, and gives the user infomation about which rune is best value to use. Lava hawk.png BlackHawk (Talk)    16:39, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Support / Suggestion - I love the idea! I also mentioned on our Discord to implement this on the Events Gadget (the rotations thingy at the menu at the top). I also have some suggestions regarding the table. I believe the base quantity of each rune should be also included on the detailed table (next to the price) to make it so when the readers views it they can buy the runes in advance and I think removing the "rune" part of the rune's names (or even the entire name) would help making it faster to read. So the basic table would look like this:

Date Slot 1 Slot 2 Slot 3
Rune 1 Rune 2 Rune 3
17 May 2021 Mist rune.png: RS3 Inventory image of Mist runeMist Steam rune.png: RS3 Inventory image of Steam runeSteam Smoke rune.png: RS3 Inventory image of Smoke runeSmoke Death rune.png: RS3 Inventory image of Death runeDeath Random

I also believe there are alternative runes every day that could be included somehow on the table (maybe the detailed one) but I don't really know if they are predicteable aswell. Maximus Gugu of ArmadylQuick chat button.png: Your Friendly Neighborhood Artist. 02:16, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the alternates - we are still collecting data on this. Whether they follow a cycle like the main runes themselves is still undetermined. crazye97 (talk) 05:41, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Closed - There is consensus for discord collaboration. Final details regarding the template used will be left to the implementers. --LiquidTalk 10:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)