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This thread was archived on 29 April 2011 by Suppa chuppa.

Proposals:

  1. To recognise RuneScape:Disambiguation as a guideline (or policy).
  2. To change the placement of {{Disambig}} to the top of the page, as suggested by User:J22f.

Discuss.   az talk   03:29, April 23, 2011 (UTC) Retracted proposal #2. ~J22f~TGC 04:04, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

Comment - I personally like having the template at the bottom of the page. ʞooɔ 04:28, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Me too. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 05:14, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
Thirded. --Andorin (Talk) (Contribs) 05:49, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - For point 1: Making RuneScape:Disambiguation a policy will mean that there will be some sort of disciplinary action taken against those who do not adhere to it, and I think it will be quite ridiculous to block someone for something like making a two link disambiguation page. To make it a guideline will mean that it is in exactly the same status that it already is: just a suggestion. I really don't see why it's necessary. As for point 2, I think the template looks better at the bottom. --LiquidTalk 05:19, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

We don't block people for that because no one has egregiously and continuously violated them. When I said "block," I meant block after a certain threshold of offenses. Sooner or later, for violating policy, someone is going to put his foot down and do something about it. For policies like Granularity, however, it will only happen after a large large number of repeated infractions after numerous warnings. I can think of several discussions that dealt with violations of these more mundane policies rather than user policies. They're just really rare. However, I'll admit that I didn't realize the spoiler policy was a policy (probably because I've never needed to use it before), and so I cannot oppose this becoming a policy if something like a spoiler is a policy. I still oppose moving the disambiguation template to the top, though. --LiquidTalk 14:55, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Support - Sounds good, though I also prefer the template at the bottom of the page.  Tien  17:37, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Support - Brings it in line with other similar policies. But the template should remain at the bottom of the page. 222 talk 00:55, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - First off, good points to all who have posted. Like Azliq7 said above, there was no written set of standards on the formatting of a disambiguation page. Creating it allows us to create a consensus on formatting and it gives us somewhere to refer users when issues arise.

On the idea of discipline, I support the idea of separating these types of articles into "Policies" and "Guidelines" based on how firm the rules are and how severe the discipline would be when the rules are broken. This article fits best in "Guidelines."

For the second proposal, I understand that many templates have traditionally been placed on the bottom, and others at the top. I propose the change because in at least 80% of the disambiguation pages, you must scroll down to see the template. In my mind the purpose of the template is to quickly let the user know what type of page he is on. I know you may say frequent users know what a disambiguation page generally looks like and don't need to see the template first. But the whole reason for the template is for the people who haven't searched that term/been on the page before.

For the people who like it better at the bottom: Yes, that is what I am used to as well. Putting it at the top is different, but I think the change has good purpose. I would like to see some better reasons rather than four people who just "prefer" it at the bottom. ~J22f~TGC 02:26, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Support - I support the article as a guideline for good reference. The disambiguation template should remain at the bottom of the article because the content is more important than seeing the template first. ~J22f~TGC 04:04, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - RuneScape:Disambiguation will be made official. Suppa chuppa Talk 07:31, April 29, 2011 (UTC)