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As per my recent request here, I'd like to let the community know here that I have requested my sysop tools to be removed due to a lack of agreement I have with the requirements users have placed to standardize users presently seeking admin rights. With that, I'd still like to have a suitable rank in the Clan Channel, if the community agrees. I know this is not within the ordinary practice of requesting a ranking, but this isn't an ordinary circumstance. I'd like to request from the community that after my star be removed, I may still have a serg. ranking in the channel. Thanks everyone ;)

Bonziiznob Talk

06:01, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - I'm sorry to see you leave, and even though you've had disagreements, I strongly believe you should retain the ability to moderate in the clan chat. Also, as an insufferable grammar nazi, I feel it is my duty to point out that you said "lack of disagreement", when you really meant "lack of agreement". Wink kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 06:06, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I have removed you from the sysop group as you requested. Quest map icon.png Laser Dragon Task map icon.png 07:09, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - per everything Psycho said. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 09:30, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - It is a far easier thing to effect changes to a system from within than from without. Although I know what you mean man. --Degenret01 10:24, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per above. Sorry to see to go. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 11:24, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per Psycho. I wish you didnt leave... Frown bad_fetustalk 12:21, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - You made it sound like I'm a bad person that never does anything good anymore, Kris. I don't know what to say at this point. You're ignoring everything positive and accusing a select group of being "the elite". Is that how you want to end your time on the wiki after all that we've all gone through together? Is that how you want me to remember you, who I have considered one of my best friends for all this time? Andrew talk 12:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Let me clear up a few things. I'm not leaving the wiki. The wiki has become a "second home" on the internet and the community is amazing, why would I ever permanently leave that? I have placed a semi-retired template on my page as I have indeed become less active in my edits and the commitment I once had on the wiki is no longer present. I will sign on everyday still, reply to all messages and still edit when I can or have time, but as I rarely have time besides to play on RuneScape, I'd rather devote a majority to the game Smile. As for questions about why I have choosen this rather then take a break. Some people are questioning my method or action, some think it's immature (and too an extent it might be) but it's my choice. When it comes to a point where admins are held in such high standards, or standards are being given to such an extreme that we are criticizing a user for reporting a vandal the CVU and using it against them, it's a group I know longer wish to represent. Need I say that becoming a sysop is a great achievement for those that still wish to go for it. It's just come to a point in my opinion that elitism is present and I no longer wish to be a part of it. Sysop was more to me then deletes and blocking. It was a honor or more like a badge from the wiki stating I am a good user trusted by the community. As this view is no longer being associated with the sysop group by some I no longer want it as I don't want to represent something that I don't believe. As for Andrew, I'm sorry. Your still a very good friend and I hope you don't remember me for this minor disagreement. It's a choice I am making, not you, so don't pin the blame on yourself. I wish we can still continue a strong friendship, cause your my b-buddy remember Wink. I'm not ending my time on the wiki, just the tools.

Bonziiznob Talk

13:48, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Sorry to hear, Bonzi, you really are a great admin. — Enigma 14:16, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - I will miss you having your name in green bonzi! You were truely my best admin ever! You was a very,very great admin though and i will still remember the times you were a admin. Liam - Beta Tester (talk) 14:22, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Sorry to hear that you are frustrated. If you need to take a break, then by all means do so. You've gotta do what you gotta do. I am among the many in the community that are sorry to see it come to this, but you'll always have the respect of many of your fellow editors. You've earned it by being dedicated, hard-working, and caring about the wiki. Thanks for that. Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 15:42, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - I wasn't clear on the proposal before. You're certainly to be trusted with a rank in the cc and admin tools if you want to be resysopped in the future for that matter. Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 22:34, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Frown Frown Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 15:55, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - The strength of your beliefs is admirable; this really is a unique thing you're doing here. I hope the community will still look up to you, even as a normal editor.  Tien  20:07, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I don't know exactly what it is that we are supporting, as this user is asking for his admin status to be revoked. I hope temporarily, and for myself, if at any time you want or need the ability to use the administrator tools to help improve this community in the future, you have my vote to re-instate your ability to do this. I am considering this a temporary revocation similar to what other wikis do for inactive admins.

As for your attitude about setting up nearly impossible standards for new admins, or only encouraging a certain kind of user to become an administrator... I'd have to agree. In fact, I don't want to be a part of a group of folks who consider themselves to be of elite status any more than simply a veteran user who can help out those who are new to this wiki. Admin status, to me, is simply an acknowledgment that you are a veteran user and are willing to take those extra steps to help protect the wiki. Generally if you have been a well behaved user for some time and have been active in the community, somebody will end up nominating you to become an admin after awhile. If anything, the reluctant admins are the ones that likely end up doing the best job, too.

This wiki will be here next year, the year after that, and for some time to come... as will this community. Folks here will grow and mature, and there will be some new blood coming along. Don't let the current snapshot view of this community discourage you for what we may be in the future. --Robert Horning 20:36, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

We're supporting that he be a sergeant in the Wiki clan chat. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 20:40, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Comment/Question - Bonzii is the only user to have requested his powers be removed (with the exception of Richard, who still has them because he is a helper.) I am not sure if we have a rule on this, but should he be able to get his sysop powers back in the future without passing an rfa? Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 21:03, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Any sysop who has left in good standing may request their tools back at any time.-- 21:10, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Because we're not voting on anything. >.> http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 21:24, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

We're voting to decide if he can still have a rank in the clan chat. "With that, I'd still like to have a suitable rank in the Clan Channel, if the community agrees." ~MuzTalk 21:27, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, Azaz. I put the essence of the proposal in bold, if nobody minds... Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 21:55, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Oh... Well, in my opinion, getting your adminship removed by your own will should affect only your adminship. (Support) http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 00:07, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Per mainly everyone else. ~MuzTalk 21:27, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Support - These times are a time of change, and with that, Bonzi holds his morals to his heart. This, my fellow editors, is an example of a great editor, hell, a great person. Although I don't see eye to eye on the trail, I can see where Bonzi wants the end to be for his crusade. I respect him as an editor, and always will. I'm sad to see that the path splits here for him, but in the end, all will be made as it should. Bonziiznob, I tip my hat to you. Zaros symbol.pngChaos Monk Talk SignCoins 250.png 00:03, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Sad to see you go Bonzi. Hope your semi-retirement goes well from the Wiki. Cheers. Ryan PM 04:23, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Support - It's always sad for me to see a fellow editor leave, but it is your decision after all. Like Bluesonic43 said in his vote above mine, I too hope your semi-retirement goes well from the Wiki. If you decide to come back out of semi-retirement in the future, I'll happily support you getting sysoped again (though I'm not sure if there's a voting process for sysops or not). Anyway, farewell, and good luck. --JalYt-Xil-BicycleCat user | talk | sandbox 04:53, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Support - I'm sorry to see you go. Hope your semi-retirement goes well. Sadly, I see a little truth in your reasons to be desysopped.... Chicken7 >talk 07:24, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Support - I too will be sorry to see another fellow editor leave. Hoping you have a good semi-retirement. --

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09:17, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I'm sorry to see you go, Bonzii. Theboy1001 14:16, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Strong oppose I am shocked that Bonzi feels this way, but maybe he has a point. However, a good admin will have much more influence in improving the community focus than an ordinary editor. Whilst all editors are equal, we cannot deny that admins and crats are ambassadors for the wiki, and having positive personalities in those positions are an absolute plus. Given that Bonzi is a good editor and a very welcome member of the community, desysopping him would have a detrimental effect on the way the wiki community sees itself, and it would only reinforce cynicism about the direction of this project. So I say we need more admins like Bonzi, not fewer - and to this end, I say that Bonzi's request to be desysopped should be denied.  :-) We need you now more than ever! Just don't give up on us.  ;-) Leevclarke talk Max_logo_mini.png bulldog_puppy.png 15:07, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

thats not what we are voting on. While everything you just said is true, We are voting to allow him to have a sarg ranking in the cc in place

of the sysop rank. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 20:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much Max. I'll still be around ;) And I have already had my sysop tools removed :p I'm just looking for a rank here ;) 21:28, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
OK, I was kinda joking about saying not to let you choose to desysop yourself.  :-D Of course you should maintain at least a sergeant rank, since you are still a trusted user. Leevclarke talk Max_logo_mini.png bulldog_puppy.png 16:57, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Support - with the hopes that you'll eventually change your mind. You've come a very long way. Andrew talk 02:29, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Support - Bonziinob is a butterfly! Unicorn horn dust.png Evil Yanks talk 08:23, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Support Bonziiznob isnt a butterfly hes a ladybird! :P nah bonzi is a great guy, and if hes been trusted to be a sysop then theres no reason for him not to have serg rank Slayer Timwac talk Fire cape.png 10:05, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Request for Closure - anything that needs to be said already has, so we may as well close this up and get on with it. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 15:23, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Closed - Bonziiznob will receive a seregant ranking on the clan chat. Butterman62 (talk) 20:17, November 2, 2009 (UTC)