I propose we strip Stinkowing of his CC rank. Yesterday he kicked a McMonkey4 (I do not know if this user edits the wiki) from the CC without warning and after doing so declared that he would deny having kicked if asked about it. When questioned the general consensus was that the user in question had done nothing kick-worthy, specifically trolling which Stinko later said was justification for the kick. We have no need for ranks who behave in this manner.
Aside from this, I find his conduct as a rank to be unacceptable. Unfortunately I have no screenshots, but he has in the past threatened to kick players who had done nothing wrong, often for voicing any criticism at all of Stinko. (On a side note, he tends to misuse "trolling" as justification for kicks, which is an example of the systemic misuse of "trolling" on this wiki.) Furthermore, I suspect Stinko to be the source of some disputed unclaimed kicks, including the one of Crono Blades which was the context for the last thread in this forum.
s. They overlap in discussion, but the first provides some small context for the kick and the second shows most of the ensuing discussion. Though I do not recall specifically and I have no screenshots, I believe the discussion of the kick ended after Stinko changed the subject to potatoes.
Get your facts straight. First off, I wasn't ON when Chrono Blades was kicked (I read about it, but I'm positive that s/he lives in a different time zone). Second, McMonkey apparently admitted to being a troll, thanks to what Harlequin said. Finally, I said - and you can CLEARLY see this in the screenshot - that I don't mind being held accountable. Obviously, right now I am, but that does NOT mean I won't answer to ANYONE. Finally, if you think that "trolling" is a bad justification for kicks, think again. I kick when I see problems arise, and no other times. It's not like I kick for fun and then deny I ever did it.
Support - He's CONSTANTLY out to get me, too. He gives me about one warning every time we're both online. It's actually gotten to the point where I no longer consider a warning from Stinko to have the same weight and worthiness of my attention as that of another rank. He's even made a thread about me in the past () I don't think he has the judgement to determine when somebody needs to be reprimanded or not. When I tried to address the issue of him consistently targeting me, and try to talk it through with him, he simply chose to insult me again [see image]. I'm tired of him. melon 23:36, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
- You know, it's funny, considering that a lot of the community DOES think you're a troll...it's REALLY funny how you use the VERY SAME PM's I was going to use to get you tempbanned for incivility against me. Not appropriate at all. I NEVER target you, I just am sick and tired of your snide comments and rudeness to (mostly) me...and some others as well. And people wonder why I hate the wiki these days... --WINE OF GOOD HEALTH (Actually Stinko) 23:43, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Hey man, this thread isn't me vs. you. I'm not the one who started it anyway. Besides that, please present evidence of the community calling me a troll. Also, good to know you were going to make yet another thread to have me tempbanned. I was civil, once. You proved you don't take well to civility; fine. I'm sick of you constantly trying to exert yourself over me for no good reason. The fact of the matter of this thread is that somebody believes you don't belong amongst the other ranks and I'm simply pointing out that I agree, and why. I'm sorry you have to resort to name-calling. melon 23:54, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
Slight support - While I do think that kicking that McMonkey guy was a good idea, and I do think that Stinko is a good person overall, I honestly don't believe that he deserves the rank. He threatens to kick people too much for the loosely-defined term "trolling", and simply abuses his powers too much. Wicid13 23:52, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but you guys aren't thinking this through clearly enough. As a result of Bull and Harle treating me like shit when I told one of my non-wikian friends to stay out of the CC about this discussion, I will be indefinately quitting the wiki. If this gets any worse, I will PERMANENTLY quit, because you're NOT going to spread lies and crap about me when I've worked SO HARD after that shitty desysopping fiasco last year to BUILD UP my image afterwards. I've worked very hard on that, and now you're attempting to tear it down and make me look bad again. Good riddiance. Bye. --WINE OF GOOD HEALTH (Actually Stinko) 00:06, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe it's just me, but taking all your toys and going home in a huff doesn't inspire confidence that you're a stable person who is a good fit for CC rank. (wszx) 00:08, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
Oppose deranking - I don't think this is enough. This is what, one incident? Stinko has a justification (albeit a very weak one) for his actions. However, I would admonish Stinko to exercise more discretion in the future. --LiquidTalk 00:14, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry Liquid, but I give up. I'm giving up my rank, so I can do you all a favor and get my ugly presense out of the wiki, so trolls can inhabit in my place. I'm NOT a good user, like people think I am. And seriously, if you can't identify people as a troll and YOU are ranked, YOU'RE the one who shouldn't have a rank. --WINE OF GOOD HEALTH (Actually Stinko) 00:17, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
Closed - Stinkowing has requested his rank be removed.00:32, October 27, 2010 (UTC)