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I'm suggesting that we delete the forums. Here's what I've got

  1. Recently it has seemed to just be a source of constant bickering.
  1. It attracts the wrong type of people to the community. We want people to join to participate in the project, not to make forum posts. There's way to many people who have little or no interest in working on the wiki.
  2. If people want to sell items or talk about RS, there a plenty of better sites where they can do that. This isn't what the wiki should be.
  3. There's no way that they help the wiki. Questions should be asked on experienced user's talk pages and discussions should be held on talk pages.
  4. They take up sidebar space.

--Wowbagger421 02:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. 5 days ago the forums were fine, and its handy sometime, because if i hava a question about the wiki, it gets answered, i mean, iv'e posted on talk pages 2 months ago and now one has responded to them yet. Tesfan 02:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC) I agree with Tesfan. We need these forums to help nkeep the RuneScape community organized.--Duckes22 17:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

That's something I was trying to fix with category:discuss. This also isn't a recent idea of mine. I've felt this way ever since the creating of the off-topic forum. --Wowbagger421 02:36, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I deleted your poll. Thanks, but it's not a good way to take a vote on things because of sock puppetry and because it limits peoples' choices. --Wowbagger421 02:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I think if you ask me, you should make it that only people who have made contributions recently and have a wikia account should be able to use the fourms instead.--Pkthis 11:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 I think that only those with a wikia account can post.If you ask me,people with NO wikia accounts are the ones who actually do all these stuff.And limit 1 wikia account to 1 e-mail too.(1 email cant have 2 wikia accounts)

aw shoot, there was an edit conflict. well, wowbanger, you can decide what you want to keep and what you want to delete. Tesfan 02:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Jeez you are one of the worst noobs i have ever heard about "the forums are not user friendly" well go tell that to your mommy!!"it is attracting wrong type of people to the coommunity" dumb racist.you are the wrong type!!!"not used much" can you even read you nooblet? Doucher4000 14:29, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Vote

STRONG OPPOSE! I find the forums on this site not used as much and not nearly as user-friendly as RuneScape's forums. If any1 wants something sold, go to the forums for the site itself. -Smarternu

Support For the reasons stated above --Wowbagger421 02:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Support Ever since the events of today I believe the forums should be deleted. It just allows certain people (you know who you are) to spam and insult others and label them racists, etc. {{Signatures/Total Rune}}02:32, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep them only way for me to figure out events!!!! Gen.Bob12

Support But this means I will be less active and I need someone to recommend me another site to replace this one (Official RS forum not an option). Aurora sword http://a.imageshack.us/img191/1589/butterflyj.png 06:07, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Against I think the forums help. I might lose motivation to play RS if it got deleted Aurora sword http://a.imageshack.us/img191/1589/butterflyj.png 06:21, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok. What exactly to you feel they help with, though? --Wowbagger421 18:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I ask questions, I get answers. Also I get to know other players, and the Market sometimes help to find a bargain. Aurora sword http://a.imageshack.us/img191/1589/butterflyj.png 06:44, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Very very very Strong Oppose!!! Ok, people, let's face the facts. I suck at mainspace edits. I cannot do them. They are just SO hard to find something to edit! I don't know how you people do these mainspace edits all the time, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T DELETE THE FORUMS!!!! Talk-to Cashman286(Level 48) 20:19, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Editing mainspace articles is not a talent. If you read the rules and learn the syntax, you'll find that there is PLENTY to be done on this wiki. Posting on the forums is not one of those things. --Wowbagger421 20:48, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep. The forums are a necessity, though we really only need the Index, Help Desk, Tavern, and Off-topic (not really actually). We can't delete the whole forum, as they're in a namepace. We can however delete unnecessary forums (like Forum:Suggestions).--CanadianRichard (Talk - Contribs) 20:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I aggree with Richard1990. Keep the necessary forums, delete everything else, and make stricter rules on the forums. Sysop crown.svg Megalodon99 (Talk) score 21:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Mee too. I agree with Richard1990. Dragon chainbody.pngEmosworldSysop crown.svg 21:31, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep Holy heck! How could you even think of getting rid of the forums?!? Can you honestly admit that the forums havent been helpful (or fun) in the past? The Nifty One, Speckle

OMG KEEP, DON'T DELETE!!! When I get tired of editing I go there to talk to people, and not have to talk about an article or sending a message to a user. It's like a break-time. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 22:46, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

keep Green partyhat.png Bob2006ty(RUNESTORM333)  talk Green partyhat.png

KEEP are you crazy? i get constant and quick help on the help forums. I edit pages also but the forums is like, say a coffee break is in a job.Guthix's Book of Balance.png Moogel Santa hat.png Hiscores 13:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

KEEP Can't people, when then go to recent changes, just put in the little box "(main)", so it only shows all mainspace edits? Tesfan 12:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC) "support" Although the forums are helpful at times, I think that it must be an enormous amount of work for the administrators. I agree with the idea of making a link, and I will request a "Runescape Unoffical Forums" Wiki. >>>Chaos rune.pngDeadalive302, (level=37)talkChaos rune.png 19:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

HUGE NO!'I love the forums. It all has to do with runescape or the runescape wiki. I hope you keep right were it's at.Penguinbob12 20:48, 4 May 2007 (UTC) I got people to join my clan that way. keep 'em.--Vaderkid22 21:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

KEEP! - What's gotten into you guys? The forums attract people who otherwise would not be on this site and helps increase our popularity amongst runescapers. It is also a place to hold discussions that can not be held otherwise.Yellow partyhat.png Ilyas Talk Contribs 15:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Againt Too hard to explain why.-- Fruit Boy (Talk) 02:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

keep the Forums!This is unneccessary , this is how we can talk about events and stuff. So please save the forums. --Mr Pker 16:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Support Keep the necessary ones. Also I'm really getting annoyed with the users just creating accounts so that they can sell stuff in the Market. Chaoticar 21:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

STRONG OPPOSE -What are talking about? The forums are great! The wiki would lose popularity without them. Blue partyhat.pngJalYt-Ket-Gambler 10Blue partyhat.pngTalk Contrib 22:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

STRONG OPPOSE This is great for any non member that wants to use the forums. Because the forums on www.runescape.com only members can put stuff in it. Abd i am a none member. Ilive4games 23:50, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep them-please Hah, i said please so you HAVE to keep them. Ok on the serious side the forums are awesome, they are a great way to encourage people to join this site, but to get overused at times with blabering. i think the off topic is reasonable to delete but nothing else. I personally joined to help out the site, yet unfortunatley there isn't much (besides grammer) to edit, but i help when i can. The forums should be like a car radieo, you buy a car for the car and not its radio but the radio is a nice little touch. Earth Strike icon.pngJohn EblaberingTh Shop 22:20, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep I love the forums. most of the time i come to the site is for the forums. though usally i get sucked in and start to look at the other stuff to. if it were not for the forums i would probably not visit the site that much. i came here for the forums and now i love this wiki. But i would hate for the forums to go. I love to hear peoples ideas on the tavern and i like to shop in the market. the thing that i like most about the market is that; the runescape forums are way to cluttered and hard to find a good seller and/or buyer there are way to many posts. i can never contact any one on those forums. But here the forums are smaller and easier to navagate. every deal i have made here has fallowed through. only one out of many deals on the runescape forums have gone through. Almost everyone here is nice. one last thing, if the forums wern't here you would not have been able to suggest somthing like this. I don't know why people are fighting and bickering and realy i don't get the point of it all. but i hope that they would stop before the forums are gone forever. just think, the sake of the forums are in your hands. do you realy want the forums gone forever? just think Kathooloo2 01:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep 'em! I think the formus make our Wiki interesting. Second-abyssal-whip.png Spitfire Dragon sq shield.png talk 12:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


A compromise solution

Move them offsite - [[c:marveldatabase]] did it that way, we should too. --Eucarya Talk 14:09, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Can I add another thing to Wowbagger's list:

  • They're a real pain to maintain, and create a lot of extra work for administrators.

How about

  • We create an external (invisionfree) forum.
  • We have a single link to it from the sidebar.

The advantages of this are:

  • Less work for the sysops in archiving/deletion.
  • Recent changes don't get polluted by forum space edits (and let's face it, it has been getting extreme recently).
  • The people who want forums here, still have forums to go on to.
  • We can have separate administrative people for the wiki and the forums (though of course, some may do both).
  • It doesn't take up so much room on the left pane.
  • It might slow down rfa and direct some of the intensity there.

It won't solve:

  • Bunfights, that's just online communities for you.

If anyone is interested in setting up an invisionfree forum for us, co-ordinating getting the current sysops registered there too, please let me know. I'd like to see one of our sysops who is active on the current forums do this and "take on" responsibility for running the forum. Anyone who's helped run a board there before would be good too. I could do it, but it'll look terrible as I don't have much time to play with it. --Eucarya Talk 14:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Eucarya. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 15:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
InvisionFree is made of fail and lose, but I highly support this idea. I'd be great to get a real forum. Posting will be easier. Aurora sword http://a.imageshack.us/img191/1589/butterflyj.png 16:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Actualy ill go with this one!--Sir Robin 23:35, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't like the idea of an InvisionFree forum people would be required to sign up twice plus making sysops would aslo be a pain in the ass. However on that note these forums are not really helping the community lately and seems to be where the majority of the edits are focused. --Whiplash 18:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree, it may also be confusing to some new users on these forums to have to edit a forum page to post. However we may need to add some kind of warning that it links off-site though. And invisionfree is banned on some school systems. File:Constructionimg.PNGGlenn1 File:Constructionimg.PNG 12:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, in theory, we could get a forum but then, in theory we would have hundreds of sexless, mannequin undressing young boys making accounts just for the sake of posting pornography and calling us all "dude". In theory communism works...in theory. {{Signatures/Total Rune}}12:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I support this idea, though if we do this, I'd like to keep the Help Desk. The rest of the forums can be deleted.--CanadianRichard (Talk - Contribs) 16:34, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Rather than a forum, we could have something like [Ask an expert?] --Eucarya Talk 16:38, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd prefer that to a help desk forum, but there's really no reason new editors can't ask questions on peoples' talk pages. --Wowbagger421 19:24, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't think we should, all help sites have forums, why should this one be any different. If they are taken away though, I think at least the help desk and tavern should be kept. Shadow135793 18:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

By comparison WP has Village Pump and Helpdesk. Perhaps they should not be called fora, to prevent discussions from becoming infinitly prolonged. Rich Farmbrough, 21:17 4 May 2007 (GMT).

Under this solution, you would still have the forums you have now, just under an invisionfree forum rather than here on the wiki. You would have to register twice, once to edit here, once to edit on those forums.

I support this ideaHartra34 12:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I don't want to get rid of the forums entirely, I'd just like them to be less of a focus. The wiki should be about content, not just about arguing over the price of fish - this is the downfall I've seen of most other startup rs help sites, they just degenerate into gossip, and I don't want that to happen here. Recently, we've had a large upsurge in people using the site, and though I'm not entirely sure why this is, I'm fairly sure it's due to the fact that we've got great content (full quest list, good treasure trails guide, etc), with the added bonus that anyone can edit. We get our updates out faster than most other sites simply because anyone can edit, and we should be proud of this. We've built a nice little community here, I'd like to see great content contributors get a bit more recognition for the things they do, rather than Rfa descending into a buddy system (I vote for you, you vote for me, etc).

What I'm worried about is the wiki becoming so overwhelmed with forum edits that it will have become in effect a clan rather than a help site - I note that the top 2 most edited articles are rfa and someone's user page and the 7th most edited article is a forum post. At the moment I feel that the only option is to either move the forums off site (to invisionfree or similar) or delete the whole lot.

I've not made any decision yet, I'd like to hear all the opinions, particularly of our resident sysops, because the forums affect you the most - archiving, watching and deleting forum posts is an onerous task I wouldn't wish on anyone. --Eucarya Talk 22:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I support either to keep the forums as they are or delete them entirely. A community portal on the wiki is another good alternative, but I don't want them on another site. It would be impossible to keep track of the contributors on those sorts of forums. The forum membership needs to be linked to the wiki membership.

I do not think that we need a clan forum. If something has to go, that one should be the first to die. Dtm142 23:03, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

if anything has to go it would be the armoury forums. just put the selling armor/weapons in the market forum.Guthix's Book of Balance.png Moogel Santa hat.png Hiscores 23:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Whose going to manage the forums then, also who will make the site? whos got the time, and whos got the loyalty? The only problems the forum cause is the spam and abuse of them. But thats not the forums fault. Even if we move them off site we will still attract those kind of people. And running that extra thing WILL take more time and lots of dedication. As a worker on many sites, I bid we reconsider. Onyx.pngMalestro02:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
The efficient management of forums is somewhat different from managing a wiki. So moving some of the forums to another tool, seems quite reasonable. None of the trading forums are particularly helpful. The question and answer function of the forums should be fairly low as theinformation should be available in the wiki itself. Game related questions should be covered in main pages. Wiki related questions (how do i make a c00wl sig) should be covered in the help section (but more pointers are needed to that information). --Miw 11:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, tools would be helpful, but overall I think it would be more work then its worth. I like having the forums as they are useful at times, though I rarely use them, I do read the markets and all the posts. We'd have to open up a new thing to do that, and when we wanna come back to wiki we have to leave that site. Two seperate sites isn't that great. If the forums are THAT much of a bother then we SHOULD delete them. If not, we'll need to plan seperate forum staff, as the wiki staff and forum staff I believe should be different. Also the forum would result in some people just joining the forums and not the wiki. Onyx.pngMalestro15:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I think we should just dump all the forums except Help Desk, Tavern, and Suggestions. All these other forums are unneeded; if you want to market or clan, use Tip.It's forums, that's what they're there for. We're a wiki dedicated to creating an encyclopedia of Runescape knowledge. These extra forums are doing nothing but allowing users who don't care a cent about the wiki and just want somewhere to advertise. Thus, Destroy all forums except for Help desk, Tavern, and Suggestions.

I am alittle new to this place but I made a gang called "The Black Fist Gang" and I turned to runescape.wikia to help advertize it, but it says that it might delete all the forums, I don't think its fair! I think that the forums should stay, it has help alot of players, deleting it wont do anything, listen wowbagger, what your doing is a mistake, please don't take away my dream and everyone elses forums, please!!

The thing that worries me the most with moving/deleting forums is that things that should have been in the forums will start trickling into the mainspace. Right now, it's kind of nice to be able to tell Joe-blow who created an article about his level 40+ clan to take it to the clan forum. That said, I think that the forums are an administrative nightmare. I think there should be perhaps one forum for help. I would say absolutely no runescape-related forums, use something like forum.tip.it if you want a free RS forum. Valid forum topics should only be for help with the wiki. Any RS-content related discussion can easily fit into existing article discussions. Endasil (Talk) @ 20:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Another compromise...by...(O.o) Talk-to Cashman286(Level 48)!!!

I think we should just delete one or two of the forums we already have. Here, I created a poll:

Which forum do you think most needs to be deleted?
Please vote below. Results will be shown when you have voted.
You are not entitled to view the results of this poll before you have voted.
There were 0 votes since the poll was created on 13:28, 2 October 2018.
poll-id 1EA50D8A77FBA6B78A0C5D6D3B81CBE7

Talk-to Cashman286(Level 48) 23:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Deleted? Why would we do that when we can move it offsite? I support Eucarya's proposition, by the way. --Sαcrε (edit my sig) | (edit my user page) 23:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm willing to bet anyone that if we got a forum, within a week someone will post at least 1 picture of a chick butt f***in naked.....chances are it'll be me (lol kidding) {{Signatures/Total Rune}}23:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
We would still have to delete all the forums and posts. We can't move stuff from a wiki to a board.--CanadianRichard (Talk - Contribs) 23:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
I can post gay porn right here right now anyway, so what's the difference? Aurora sword http://a.imageshack.us/img191/1589/butterflyj.png 02:52, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Dude, no gay porn! evvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvver. I think moving the forums offsite could be a pain because I usually search forums then just click article straight away but on the other hand it does make the hall monitors I mean admins work easier. Plus if we had it off site we could have one uncensored section because **** isnt exactly expressional enough. But its gonna only gonna make a tiny iota of difference anyway. I was gonna write about staking yesterday but it would conflict with duelling and duel arena and stuff so all the good articles have already been taken. Crystal bow.pngKeepin It Rhyl Ranged-icon.png06:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


NO dont to that, plz dont cause its a killer. We dont want to go to some ghetto site with crappy adverts. Please keep it here! --Mr Pker 16:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes adverts. MEGA ULTRA GIGA OPPOSE we don't want adverts to RuneScape gold sites on our forums. --Whiplash 16:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Just don't delete forums. I agree with Eucarya's idea too. Guthix's Book of Balance.png Zoxin0"Talk"contribsSaradomin's Book of Wisdom.png


move them offsite then, as long as they are not oo hard to access. Green partyhat.png Bob2006ty(RUNESTORM333)  talk Green partyhat.png

How About...

Is it possible to make it so that the forums really don't move but:

  1. Forum edits don't appear in the Wiki Most Recent Changes section
  2. There are fewer categories (ie delete the more useless pages like Armoury, Off-Topic, Suggestions, perhaps even the Clans page)
  3. They are still accessible by computers that allow the Wiki to be viewed.
  4. More strict rules, possibly several Forum-specific Administrators to help enforce them.

My first thought was to just make a new RuneScapeWiki Forums site, as a whole new Wikia, but that would create a whole new site all together, which would almost be more work than we'd like. I don't like the idea of losing the forums, but something needs to be done to get them under control. How about, as a start:

  1. Delete the useless pages
  2. Make some specific rules
  3. Get a few Forum Administrators

Any thoughts? Runecrafting TIRRIANGANT (TALK)20:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm guessing it's difficult/impossible to not put forum edits on the recent changes page.
Yes for deleting Off-topic and suggestions (just gets spammed by the stuff that RS have banned discussion of, a better way would be to add OUR suggestions here, for the wiki). Leave the rest, armoury can get put back into market but clans (i'm guessing) is useful for some ;).
I'm for keeping them here myself, as they're noted as forum pages, usually you have to register on those infernal 'forums' of other sites. - ChrisWar666 20:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I disagree for the mere reason that forums are handy. Then, not all forums are useful, and the wiki is meant to give people informations about RS. I think Market, Off-topic and Suggestion forums should be deleted; and better categories should be put. For instance : RS Help; Wiki Help; Wiki Clan. Its a bit like Tavern, Help desk...but w/ more explicit stuff. Aveyond007 08:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

By: Chukonu Xbow: This should be done away with for sure. Jagex does not allow clans that are openly an "Anti-clan clan" as it is not in the spirit of the game.

Yes to getting rid of suggestions but thats all because i dont use it that much!--Sir Robin 19:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Reasons to Keep Them

So far I haven't heard anything better than "keep them because I like them." --Wowbagger421 01:54, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Just to make it clearer, the question is: How does keeping the forums benefit the project? --Wowbagger421 02:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Because how else will we got to know each other. if i never checked the forums i would never have known any of these users. plus there are usally better prices here then any where else Kathooloo2 01:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

the forums bring more people to the site. Kathooloo2 02:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

when they do bring them to the site they only edit their userpage/talkpage, and forums. nothing else, the wiki is supposed to be about the wiki not the forums. Farming-icon.png Matt talk Runecrafting-icon.png 02:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

yah that is how i started, but now i also search the site and occasionally i edit stuff too and i am not the only one who wants to keep the forums. there are more people who want them then those who dont. and hobbit lover you are one of the most common users that i see on the forums. Kathooloo2 02:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Moogel just recently started contributing a lot to the wiki. And he's right. The type of people who join the wiki to sell their stuff aren't going to be the type who want to help out. --Wowbagger421 02:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

so, could'nt this site use some atention anyways. wether it is from the forums or not it is attention nonetheless. Kathooloo2 02:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

yah, and what you said about moogle. he is also in support of keeping the forums. you can still contribute to the wiki and be involved in the forums. take moogle for example Kathooloo2 02:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Most people don't do both. Most people just do the latter. And I am in favour of anything besides moving them to a separate domain. Dtm142 00:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Help desk must be kept. It's good for users new to wikis and other users requiring help with the wiki. Tavern can be a off-site thing if we ever do that, and the rest can be deleted because they don't contribute to anything useful if you ask me.--CanadianRichard (Talk - Contribs) 00:28, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Tavern should stay for Wiki discussion and just a place to discuss RuneScape. It's reasonable for it to stay. Get rid of market, clans, and change suggestions to be reserved for Wiki suggestions and not game suggestions. As far as clans go, we could have our own Wiki clan like many other fansites do (and possibly a lower clan like the Da Chia). But other than that, the forum needs to go. Dtm142 16:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

New forum feature

Hi there, I'm Catherine from the Wikia Community Team.

I'm not here to sway the argument one way or the other -- each community can decide for themselves whether forums are beneficial or not, and there's no one right answer.

However, I'd like to point out that Wikia has a new forum feature in the works that you might want to take into account in your debate: see http://inside.wikia.com/forum/ for a test installation of an integrated PhpBB forum -- no separate login, wikicode allowed in posts, etc. I don't know exactly when this will be available for other Wikia as we're still in the bug-fixing stage, but it is "coming soon", and you are welcome to try it out and let us know what you think.

This feature would help with the maintenance issues for Runescape admins, but not the issues of people neglecting the project in favor of chatting in the forum.

Hope that helps you to come to a decision,
Catherine o' the [[Wikia:Community Team|ComTeam]] 21:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Looks cool. I'd take this over the forums. Thanks for telling us Catherine.--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 21:36, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Who says you get to take over the forums? =). Tesfan 21:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
This does look promising, I'm happy to say "hold" on any decision until this to fruition. --Eucarya Talk 21:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Consensus

Have we come to a conclusion yet? Are we ever going to delete the forums?--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 23:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

My 5 Cents

I can see where both sides are coming from. I can see that the Recent Changes are being spammed, and that some of the topic in the forums are giving Runescape Wiki a bad rep. I can also see, that if we moved the forums offsite, there would be alot more spam on the other site, admins would have to be on two websites, and everyone would have to create an account at the other forums for posting. This would cause issues such as people stealing each others accounts, which means that the admins would have their time wasted sorting these issues out.

At the start of writing this I was going to say that I would agree with deleting the forums, but now I have changed my mind. The forums should stay, so I Oppose. Yes there are a couple of issues with the forums, but why don't we all just get over them, yes it spams the Recent changes, just go to the next page, yes there are alot of questionable topics on the forums, help this Wiki out, by deleting/changing them so they are not as offensive. There are always two or more solutions to a problem :) Matt2 03:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I just saw that Wikia has the PhpBB forum thing, and I would be all in for that :) Matt2 03:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Just thought I'd add I think I found a way to exclude the forum edits from your Recent Changes, instead of clicking on the recent changes link just go here :) [[1]] Matt2 04:13, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
I support deleting them when the phpBB wikia thing comes out. Dtm142 16:11, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't that more be like moving them though? Matt2 03:02, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
They don't show up on the recent changes and they don't count towards your edit count. Dtm142 23:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

what bout this?

  • for the ones who want to keep it like me keep the importants. like help desk and tavern or off topic i dont realy care. clans is a maybe since it joins the comunity together sort of.suggestions MUST stay here so we can all be creative and share it around.it can also be used for the wikia
  • for removing them put the markets over there and either tavern or off topic.
  • this way we get to keep the importants and still have offsite forums.

if i missed any thing please feel free to inculde any thing.but im for this Chasngcars22:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

For the vote thing about which subjects to move off here

Is there a way that we could do that voting on the wiki? It would make a little more sense, especially since the main reason I won't be using the off-site forums is because I can't access them from the computer I most often use here. Please move the vote onto the Wiki rather than the off-site forums, or anywhere off-site for that matter. Runecrafting TIRRIANGANT (TALK) 19:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, I can't access the off site forums either.Yellow partyhat.png Ilyas Talk Contribs 17:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Shall we start this discussion again from scratch?

The PHPBB Wikia forums seem to be a good option, keeping the advantage of single login, though maybe offtopic and general stuff should be relegated to a freeBB.

The old style (Forum:) forums may still be better as a "super talk page" for wiki business ONLY, for things beyond the realm of a single article talk, and where recent changes indication would be an advantage. Ace of Risk 20:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps these forums can be for wiki discussions, the PHPBB ones for RuneScape discussions? Dtm142 01:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)