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This thread was archived on 8 August 2019 by Liquidhelium.

Hello. Allow me to preface this by saying that in most instances with the discord, as it is shared, discussions about changes should be made on the Meta Wiki. However, since the Old School RuneScape Wiki, Classic Wikis, and Pt-Br wikis do not possess an events team, I've decided to write this thread here.

I am of the opinion that the #events Discord channel is redundant. It is a mostly dead channel, and it's intended use, informing people with the "events-role" role of an upcoming RS3 event can be better done in either the appropriate #rs or #announcements channel.

Let's go over some of the last conversations in the channel:

  • On July 19th, spanning into the subsequent day, a brief invite to an unrelated clan event was posted. As the channel description states that this channel is for Wiki & Pink Skirts events, this was unrelated.
  • On July 17th, an incomprehensible request was made by a user named Denoontjepouwer. This was not events team related.
  • On July 4th, a user named Lady Sk8s asked where an in game event was taking place. As this was in game content, this was not events team related.
  • On July 3rd, a brief conversation with no resolution took place about the lack of low level events within the events team. No current events team members replied to this conversation.
  • On July 1st, a single message was sent by Metal Angel, reading ">dagganoth". This was in reply to an events ping sent out by events team member King Kolton 9 a day prior.

So to recap, in the last 27 messages spanning over 25 days, only one of them had to do with an event. While I’m not targeting the events team itself, I believe the way we handle sending out these messages can be done a lot better than a mostly empty, mostly unused channel that takes up space in what most people already agree to be a cluttered discord channel.

I suggest these would be better placed in the #rs channel, or even #announcements, a channel which I trust the events team to handle responsibly, as they have to be voted in by community consensus, and I have little reason to not trust them with this.

So, here are my proposals:

  • Option A - Remove the channel.
    • Option A-1 - Allow events team members to ping in #announcements.
    • Option A-2 - Allow events team members to ping in #rs.
  • Option B - Some other thing
  • Option C - Keep the channel as is.

Please discuss, I’m open and interested in hearing opinions and thoughts on this matter. -dDbvitC.pngScuzzy Betahib8CAd.png 21:51, 25 July 2019 (UTC)


Option A-1 - as nominator. dDbvitC.pngScuzzy Betahib8CAd.png 21:54, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

None A-2 - there was a plan to create a bot that ET can use to ping the events role, which is still on the to-do list. Keep the channel until that’s been made and then the bot can just use the channel as the psuedo events-announcements channel jayden 21:57, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Comment - If this were the case, I'd rather it be a new channel listed above the General section, while we archive the old one. Is this the plan? dDbvitC.pngScuzzy Betahib8CAd.png 21:59, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Comment - How is this different to the ET pinging the role themselves? Nericat (talk) 22:00, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Currently it requires us to make the events role mentionable every time ET want to ping the role. We deliberately keep it unmentionable so that a troll doesn’t come along and ping everyone with that role (100+) and piss people off. jayden 22:02, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
This could be done in the announcements channel, surely? Nericat (talk) 22:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Personally I'd rather that the announcements channels get used for actual announcements and not filled with clutter from ET, which usually hosts events twice a week. Especially since the event pings would be for a specific subset of people, rather than being useful information for everyone. jayden 22:12, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Shrug / A-1 - I don't really care to delete the channel but if it's bothering people by existing, sure, however I'd also rather it be archived/hidden and re-opened for use for big party events (when afaik it is actually used). Star Talk ayy lmao ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 21:58, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Additional oppose A-2 - makes it much harder for pinged people to see the announcement if it's in #rs due to the amount of talking that goes on there Star Talk ayy lmao ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 22:50, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Option A-1 or A-2 Honestly, i hate to say it, but people are dumb, they go into there thinking its like a second general or something. Now while we would be removing discussion about that subject, as that was the channels secondary function is, having it brought in from either #rs or #announcements, then people can voice their opinions in #rs and in turn, those channels will have more people in there, generating discussion. and in extreme cases where having a events channel would be useful, the only place that would be great for wikifest hide and seek clues and answers. one last thing, perhaps a admin or Gaz can give us a role that just lets us @ the event go-ers tag so we don't have to keep asking for our super ping every time. Thefreeman500 (talk) 21:59, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

It is not possible to have a Discord role that lets you ping a specific role otherwise we would have given it to you by now. jayden 22:01, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Option A-2 - svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 22:09, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Option A-1 - unless there's a specific reason to have active discussions about events it'd make the most sense to announce them in announcements. also it'd mean I can view #recent-changes-rs without having to scroll slightly down Nericat (talk) 22:11, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Option A-2 - It's only relevant to RS people, not to OSRS people. Plus, having it in #rs allows for discussion about the event and who's coming to take place in the same channel instead of elsewhere, plus the channel title makes it obvious what the announcement is related to. Talking pushing the event info up is a non-issue, because 1) event announcements are generally only relevant for 2 or 3 hours at most, and 2) jumping to @mentions is a thing. -- F-Lambda (talk) 01:44, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

A-2 - I'd rather keep #announcements for announcements regarding the Wiki, not for events. H rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).pngChompy_bird_hat_ogre_marksman.pngCrystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 06:27, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

A-2 - Dead channel, #rs is fine for it. Talk-to Kelsey 09:13, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

A-2 - I would rather events be in #rs, myself. 7kyt1iT.gif --WINE OF GOOD HEALTH (Actually Stinko) 21:17, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Shit, I worded that badly. I just prefer A-2, let's just say that. 7kyt1iT.gif --WINE OF GOOD HEALTH (Actually Stinko) 03:18, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

A-2 - Give me back my screen real estate. Strongly against A-1. iN008talk 22:15, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

A-2 - I'd rather leave #announcements for more important stuff involving the wiki. Merds msg 20:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Preference to A-1; A-2 is meh - A1 allows pings to be seen, at least. I think they might get lost in the void with A2. King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 6896)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 16:46, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Closed - The #events channel will be removed. Events Team members can ping in #rs. --LiquidTalk 00:52, 8 August 2019 (UTC)