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This thread was archived on 29 August 2010 by Liquidhelium.

Many users cite Wikipedia policies or essays when they make an argument in the Yew Grove, talk pages, etc. even though RS:NOT#WIKIPEDIA says we are not Wikipedia. What is our standing on quoting their policies here. Do they have any weighing? Can they be an argument themselves or only a supporting fact. Should we continue to allow them or not?

222 talk 10:27, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

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Allow Wikipedia - Wikipedia policies should continue to be allowed, but only to support an argument, but not as an argument itself. I am Neutral about their weighing. 222 talk 10:31, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I rarely see Wikipedia policies cited; only essays or documents that are not enforced. We can quote them all we want, as no matter where they are, they are all an interesting read and may have an influence on a user's mindset. Chicken7 >talk 11:52, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - People can cite whatever they want, but Wikipedia policies won't have any standing in an argument. --LiquidTalk 12:00, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Don't cite essays or proposals as if they were policy. Take them at face value, but policies, essays and proposals can affect an argument if one decides to read them rather then just ignoring them completely. Also, people seem to confuse Wikipedia essays with policies. I imagine that these people are only reading the link or if they do read it, the miss the: "This essay contains..." template at the top. Even though we have many about: this wiki isn't X, it should be noted that we can use common sense and learn something new without having to belittle every Wikipedia link in the Yew Grove or any discussion. Ryan PM 21:36, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Is that a policy or an essay?Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 08:05, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
It says there it's an essay. 222 talk 08:09, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
*Facepalm* (Did this just now). I've never cited a Wikipedia policy (minus IAR last March?) and only linked essays. Ryan PM 09:34, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I like what Ryan said. HaloTalk 21:45, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Wikipedia essays, in my opinion, a nice read when given the link. Although it doesn't have a standing in a YG thread, it may help someone on their opinion. If you want to use it, go ahead, but don't say that it's a reason why something should happen. ~MuzTalk 01:32, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Citing WP is like a shortcut. "WP has what I want to say but so much more well written." Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 09:44, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Don't overuse shortcuts to policy and guidelines to win your argument. =P Ryan PM 09:55, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
Lol, the irony. 222 talk 10:01, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
Does Wikipedia have an essay on every topic, there seems to be heaps of them. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 10:04, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Closed - Wikipedia essays/policies can be cited, but they are not going to carry any weight on the RS Wiki. --LiquidTalk 17:48, August 29, 2010 (UTC)