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This thread was archived on 16 September 2011 by Liquidhelium.

Following from the now-archived thread (here), we need to reassign the checkuser right.

Users may be nominated using

{{subst:Forum:Choosing new CheckUsers (again)/Template|user|nomination statement ~~~~}}

Discussion of candidates will follow RS:CONSENSUS, and after discussion has died down this forum will be closed by a neutral sysop.


Suppa chuppa (Contribs - Log actions)

I'm active in countervandalism, and I believe that I would make good use of the tool. This would allow me to bypass the current scenario where I have to request Cook or Gaz to perform a checkuser for me or wait until one of them comes online for it to happen. Suppa chuppa Talk 18:21, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

  • Support, suppa always beats me to the reverts and I imagine he'll beat me to the checkusers as well, but he definitely has a use for the tools. ajr 18:32, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Although I have some suspicions that the reason you brought forward this thread was for something of a personal agenda, I know that if you are assigned the tools you'll utilise them constantly, effectively, and with good intent. Not much more to add. Ronan Talk 18:38, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - You're trustworthy and know what you're doing. You're active and a strong editor. A good choice. Hofmic Talk 18:43, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Suppa's one of our best editors. He'll use the tools well What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 18:51, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Suppa's an active anti-vandal, and in Chat sometimes. Smithing (talk | contribs) 00:31, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - As one of the most active antivandals he definetely has use for this tool. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 14:16, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Strong anti-vandal, they'll put the tools to the correct kind of use and for the good of the wiki. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 16:35, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - I've talked with Suppa in the chat and he seems like he would have good use of the tools. -- 18:05, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
I said that ^ forgot to log in --Touhou FTW 18:06, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Per all. [1] N7 Elite (Ready to talk now?) 19:16, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - A not-insignificant-number of my checks have been at Suppa's request. I don't doubt that he knows what the tool is for. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 20:00, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Per all. --クールネシトーク 20:02, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Duh. Matt (t) 01:22, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Per all. Smuff [kthnxbai] 18:48, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - What Flaysian said. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 09:16, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ajraddatz (Contribs - Log actions) - Withdrawn

Well, after a bit of consideration I am going to apply this time around. While I have not been very active last school year (and not at all during the summer due to circumstances out of my control), I am making a commitment to be more active this year. I will be available from ~2300 to 0400 UTC, as well as other random times during the day, and access to checkuser would help with both dealing with vandals, and developing abuse filters to further defend against similar vandalism. Even though I was not very active after Christmas of last year, I have still had a use for the tool on a couple of occasions, and I feel that I can make better use of it than some of the current CheckUsers. Also, for those who are wondering why I'm not as active in countervandalism as I used to be - I am, however, two unnamed countervandals have much faster internet connections than me, and are able to revert/block much faster than I am. Thanks for your consideration, ajr 18:28, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
Upon further thought and conversation, I'm withdrawing from this process. I unfortunately do not have my life to spend on this wiki, and while I do hope to be more active here, I suppose that isn't something I can guarantee. ajr 22:24, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Urbancowgurl777 (Contribs - Log actions)

To put it plainly, I am tired of bugging Gaz to use checkuser for me. Currently I have a list of 12 names (which I've gathered in the last month) who are suspected sockpuppets from Special:Chat, four of those who were banned last night after I asked Gaz to check their IPs. With the release of Special:Chat (like I said in the last thread), as well as now having a blocking tool for countervandalism, I've had an increased need for checkuser. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 19:00, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

  • Support - An active, honest, hardworking editor who has a need and a deserving use for the tools. Ronan Talk 19:03, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Fergie is one of the more active admins in Special:Chat, and she could use the tools to check for ban evaders What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 19:09, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - As per Flay. Hofmic Talk 19:31, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Definitely a use for the tools in regards to Special:Chat. ajr 22:02, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Weekly use of a tool this serious is overkill, I fear you do not take its privacy violations seriously enough. It is to be used most sparingly at best, not at the slightest hint of some sock puppetry. I kind of wonder if ANY of the nominees have read up on what wiki itself considers proper use of this tool.--Degenret01 07:45, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
Seriously? You should join the chat more often. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:26, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment - Are there semi-obvious sockpuppets in the chat that often? I can't imagine you'd need checkusers for all of them. Don't most of the sockpuppets continue the behavior that got them banned at first, which gets them a ban anyway? Then there is no need for a checkuser. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 14:16, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
No. Person continually breaks rules and gets banned. Person returns on another account with a very similar names and asks why they were banned. We tell them why, and we tell them making new accounts to avoid ban evasion is against the rules, so we ban them again. Person realizes we don't know it's them unless they admit it so they create a new account to further evade the ban, this time the account is named something completely random. Person succeeds in evading their ban. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:26, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Strong support - This tool needs to be given to really active and trustworthy admins, and I feel that Fergie is just that. She's always editing and enforcing stuff whilst keeping the Wiki in order. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 16:33, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Per Flaysian, Ciph, and Rhys. --Touhou FTW 18:14, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Strong Support - I have no doubt in my mind that Fergie will use the tool as intended and to the best of her ability. Therefore, I strongly support her nomination. [2] N7 Elite (Ready to talk now?) 19:18, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - I trust fergie to be able to use the tool correctly. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 20:00, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Per above. --クールネシトーク 20:02, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • Suppport - Yes. Matt (t) 01:20, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - I know she will need to use it for chat sometimes, and I doubt she would misuse it. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 10:59, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Active enough in the chat to have use for the tools. Smithing (talk | contribs) 18:14, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

TyA (Contribs - Log actions)

While my amount of actual editing rate isn't the highest, I remain very reachable in IRC and Chat. This will make me able to perform CheckUser checks when they are needed and the other CheckUsers are not online. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 22:15, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

  • Support, per his nomination statement. ajr 22:16, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support He does seem to be online whenever the other potentional and current Checkusers aren't, and he would be able to use them to find Chat ban evaders What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 22:25, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Per Ciph and ajr. --Touhou FTW 18:10, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Gaz Lloyd (Contribs - Log actions)

Gaz has used CheckUser more than anyone since it was assigned eight months ago. I have no doubts that he'll stay active and continue to use the tools. ʞooɔ 22:23, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Cook Me Plox (Contribs - Log actions)

Cook has shown a good understanding and use of the tools in the past 8 months, and I believe he will continue to use them well What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 22:30, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Cook and Gaz will retain the tool as active people, per the archived thread. We only need to select for 7I, Karlis, and Calebs' tools.--Degenret01 00:54, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thebrains222 (Contribs - Log actions)

Since Caleb will have his checkuser tools reassigned, there is now a gap in timezones when a checkuser is likely to be avaliable in the eastern hemisphere. I am willing to fill this gap. While I haven't been editing often recently, I'm very easily reachable on IRC, as well as on-wiki. I'm around from 5:00PM to 10:00 PM AEST on weekdays. 222 talk 06:53, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - Sorry, but I think the quite immature behavior you sometimes show on IRC and on the wiki, and your inactivity on the wiki itself doesn't make you a good candidate. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 14:12, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Do you have ANY evidence at all of immaturity in IRC and especially on wiki? I take such allegations quite seriously, especially when someone makes what I believe to be false or exaggerated claims. Regarding your other point, I don't see your reasoning, I can immediately act on anything suspicious if I notice it/it is reported to me by another user, that does not require me to be editing every second minute on the wiki. 222 talk 00:24, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
To give you the clearest example of immaturity on IRC, this chatlog would probably show it the best. You and sentra kept the topic having that I "fail epicly" for about 3 hours, until another admin came in. This is just one example for me to think you do sometimes act immature, at least in IRC. And I agree, you don't have to edit every second minute on the wiki, but considering that in the last week you have only edited your own css, forum threads, chatting on talk pages/warning a vandal after a request by others and one or two antivandal edits. That is not actively editing the wiki. I'd rather have an admin who does still edit the wiki actually to have this tool. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 09:46, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
I knew you were going to bring that up; perhaps that wasn't a brilliant choice of actions by myself, but you have one small incident in over a year of participating on the IRC, quite clearly you are still bearing a grudge over being called fail for a few hours. Also, I will not allow my education to suffer simply so I satisfy your definition of activity, over the past 2 weeks, I've had 4 tests to prepare for and 3 assignments due. 222 talk 09:56, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
No I am not bearing a grudge or something (I brought up removing the thing from the topic only 30 minutes after it was added, as I just play along and assume it gets removed after a while), it is just that I find this kind of behavior too immature for a sysop, so especially for a checkuser. I know this was only one incident in such a long time, but I see you act a bit immature (a lot less than that log, but still a bit immature) in the IRC still, in small things. If I remember correctly, I once asked you to do something I couldn't do (maybe revdel or something), and you said something like "meh, ask gaz" (not that sure about this thing, but it was something like that). Even though you might not do things like that log anymore, I still don't think you are mature enough for this. Oh and yes, you might have had tests and assignments to do, but explaining your inactivity does not make you more active. Caleb is probably too busy with school to edit, but we are still not giving him checkuser again simply because he is too inactive. And in my opinion, you are also a bit too inactive to get this tool we can give to a very limited amount of users. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 10:12, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
That's just a claim, and I am fairly sure it would have been because I was busy with something or rather. I never suggested that explaining my temporary inactivity would somehow make me more active last week, that is quite an absurd notion. You are welcome to your opinion of course, I was just making sure that other users were not swayed by misleading information. 222 talk 11:12, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
You have admitted you are fairly lazy, and it is also quite obvious you are semi-inactive, with very few edits a week. It is not misleading information that you are quite inactive, so please don't say it is. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 13:26, September 8, 2011 (UTC)
Like Rhys said below, you are obviously picking at non-existent reasons to oppose. Calling someone immature over a "bad joke" is quite over-the-top. Also, don't use what I said about my personal laziness in a completely out of context fashion. I said I was lazy, but that doesn't mean I don't get things done, or skimp on quality. Now back to my relative inactivity, your example with Caleb is invalid, Caleb is essentially permanently busy with school while on the other hand, I've simply had a busy 2 weeks. Now, I won't go claiming that such a week won't ever occur again, but my activity and participation will return to normal the coming week. Again, I have no problems with you opposing, just not based on mislead reasoning. 222 talk 12:54, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Neutral - Although I think Joey is picking at stuff here, I do agree that the topic should of been changed a little earlier. You're in a great timezone to take the tools, and you're a good user... But it is a slight concern. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 12:23, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Support - I think he is trustworthy and I believe that the time zone location is such a necessity for this tool. RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 10:08, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Support - I trust him to use it right, and we need someone to fill this timezone. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 00:35, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Support - Per Glentra. Matt (t) 01:55, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sentra246 (Contribs - Log actions)

I admit I don't have a big need for the tool, and would very rarely use it, if ever, but a large reason for that is that there are a lot less times it is needed around the times I am on. I am on the irc and chat every weeknight, from around 6-9:45pm, and more most weekends. Not much else I need to say. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 10:59, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Strong oppose - The same things I said to brains above also apply to you, but I think you are more immature than brains. You started that incident of the chatlog, and also started spamming my request to get it removed from the topic after that. You do not show the behavior I would expect to see for an admin, and especially not for a checkuser. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 13:26, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I do act immature in the irc sometimes, but I never act immature, or not to my memory anyway, on the wiki, except occasional jokes with other users, especially with any tools that could cause damage. I believe there is a big difference between acting immature on the irc, and being immature with tools on the wiki. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 09:44, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
Gee, this sounds familiar. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 14:02, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Neutral - As per my post on 222's nomination RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 12:25, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Support - He is a mature person, and I saw that earlier today during and argument between me and two other users. He was the one trying to stop the fight, and this is what we should need to see from anyone with the CheckUser tool RSN: Warthog Rhys Talk Completionist's cape... Coming soon. 10:09, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Support - As Sentra himself has already stated, there is a huge distinction between behaving immaturely in the IRC and immaturity on the wiki. I have complete faith in him to use the tools correctly and efficiently. He is also one of our most active sysops in chat, which further increases his use for the tool. Coupled with his timezone and activity level, he's one of the best candidates out there. Ronan Talk 13:39, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I've never seen him in S:C, fyi. <.< sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 14:02, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
He's usually in earlier than you Fergie. He's in it right now What I've done Ciphrius Kane Talk 14:11, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
Ah, alright. (: sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 17:49, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Pre-closure statement

Discussion has died down now. The three users receiving the most support are Suppa Chuppa, TyA, and Urbancowgurl777. As such, I will be contacting Wikia staff shortly about reassigning the checkuser tool.

The thread will remain open until said request is processed. --LiquidTalk 02:11, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - The tools have been moved. --LiquidTalk 21:40, September 16, 2011 (UTC)