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Current favicon: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/51/faviconkh.png

A favicon is a 16x16 pixel image that browsers use to represent a website. A favicon says a lot about a website, and almost all reputable websites have well-made favicons that not only effectively identify the website but also complement the website's logo and match the overall style and theme of the website.

In its current form, RuneScape Wiki's favicon only identifies the website—and it even does a poor job at that. If you didn't know what it was supposed to say, it could just as easily say "PW". This isn't the [http://harrypotter.wikia.com/ Potter Wiki]. The dark blue of the 'R' and the maroon of the 'W' simply don't mesh well—neither with each other nor the color scheme of the website. But even if the colors were consistent with the website, the overall style of the favicon would match that of simply nothing relating to the website.

Proposal - At the very least, the colors need to be changed so as to remove any ambiguity and illegibility. The ideal change, however, would involve completely scrapping the current favicon and changing it to match the color scheme of the website and the style of the logo.

Joel amos Talk Contribs 19:58, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Support - I've been meaning to do this for the last couple years. I would prefer something that matched the logo, perhaps a curly golden R/W instead? ʞooɔ 20:40, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Support - Per Cookie. — Jr Mime (talk) 21:18, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Q - Do you expect us to have a decision for the favicon at the end of this thread? Or will this be to decide whether or not it should change followed by some good ol' democracy à la theme changes? MolMan 21:24, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

A - I intended the latter, but the former would be great. Joel amos Talk Contribs 21:28, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Curly golden quick mockup - Emoticon-Faviconnew_zps25737255.png sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 21:44, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

It's kinda cut off and that annoys me >.> What does it look like with a font slightly smaller so as to fit the whole thing in there? Or am I wrong and the font just condenses like that? MolMan 21:52, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
It was just a quick mockup to see what the font looks like small. sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 22:04, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
Now I feel even more foolish for being nitpicky :( MolMan 22:05, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
By the way, what's the name of the font? Joel amos Talk Contribs 22:22, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
Neverwinter MolMan 22:24, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
I thought that was a monkey before realising it to be a favicon... User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 05:40, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Another Example - Here's another example that could be improved upon: http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4097/faviconsuggestion.png. It's the Neverwinter typeface after some trimming. Joel amos Talk Contribs 02:33, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Can we have two different colours for the R and W maybe? This brown is ugleh. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 05:40, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Sure. Any suggestions? Joel amos Talk Contribs 18:02, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Meh. Current colours seem fine if we separate the R and W a bit more to avoid saying PW and making them a bit brighter and more vibrant. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:13, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
In this one, the color is slightly more vibrant and the R and W and moved apart 1 px more: http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/810/89603022.png. Joel amos Talk Contribs 20:25, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

The new favicon - [1] Dtm142 (talk) 04:36, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

bl00 phat MolMan 13:02, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Support - changing the icon. Neutral - on current icons proposed so far.   az talk   05:02, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Support - actually, we kind of need to change what the favicon is, anyway, we're not the Rune Wiki, we don't tell you what the hell Legolas is saying, somebody picked RW because they could go together, and he was the only noob that had read the first page of his Paint manual.--Ice Rush12Zaros symbol.pngTalkHiscores 06:37, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

You know that "RW" can also stand for "RuneScape Wiki"? ʞooɔ 09:52, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Ice, I agree with you. To me, the whole RW thing has always just felt not right. The thing is, though, it's a really small space, and the more content that's added, the more it just looks crowded and unprofessional. And it's especially bad for us because we need to adequately portray two ideas: that of "RuneScape" and "Wiki". (That's why simply a partyhat in my opinion is a bad idea because we lose the "wiki" idea.) Joel amos Talk Contribs 17:38, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Support Change, but Oppose anything curly - it's 16x16, making it curly just makes it unclear. Why not a simple "RW"? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 09:08, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Support - Per Cook. Temujin 09:57, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Comment - Emoticon-Faviconstackedmerged_zps920e289c.png ? Maybe 2 letters? sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 18:22, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Comment - I rather like the 3-lettered RSW, good job. --Darke Adam (talk) 19:30, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Comment - If you're using Firefox, you can view any proposed images as they would appear as a favicon in a tab by right clicking "Copy image location" and pasting the link in a new tab. Joel amos Talk Contribs 20:33, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Or just "View image" MolMan 20:36, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Touché, but then you lose your current tab. Joel amos Talk Contribs 20:41, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Your Firefox must suck, opens in a new tab for me. MolMan 02:14, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Comment - Wiki6_zps61929468.png Wiki5_zpse7d7dbc3.png Couple of attempts. Any chance we could make it bigger? the size restriction makes it really difficult :P It's a shame we can't be cool like all the grown-up websites and represent ourselves with a single letter or simple image. --Henneyj 01:59, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia called.
"What's that? Okay, I'll tell him."
No. MolMan 02:14, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
I like the second one HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 04:23, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
They're both ugly; I therefore propose that they be killed with fire. Temujin 06:37, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
I think the second one is very nice. Hair 16:38, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
Second one is indeed good. Get rid of the brown though... Use dodger blue or something. => User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:16, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thinks they look a bit cheesy? <.< sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 19:35, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
No. I think they'd be better if there was a transparent background and a darker brown was used for the letters. Joel amos Talk Contribs 21:04, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
I really like that second one but I agree, the font should be darker and maybe a transparent background and it would look really nice.04ismailjj6 (talk) 22:12, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
Wiki10_zps5da260a1.png th_Wiki11_zps6812a0c9.png Wiki12_zpsc5cc4722.png These are maybe a bit better. --Henneyj 02:44, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
Much better in my opinion. I like 1 and 2. Joel amos Talk Contribs 03:46, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

fzfPIEJ.png - Kinda got the idea from [[wiktionary:]]; it's a little picture within brackets. Of course, I have no GIMP nor can my computer handle any decent image editing software, but that picture gets the idea across. MolMan 20:12, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Similarly, http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/8647/fzfpiej6.png. Joel amos Talk Contribs 21:47, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
I always assumed Wiktionary did that to depict a pronunciation, I'm not sure why you think we should do the same. I think it looks quite out of place and meaningless in our case. Ronan Talk 21:52, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
Then explain [http://www.wikia.com/Wikia Wikia]'s favicon. I was under the impression that the brackets signify most wikis' heavy use of square brackets. Joel amos Talk Contribs 22:09, June 5, 2013 (UTC)
Wiktionary uses forward slashes around pronunciations. MolMan 22:12, June 5, 2013 (UTC)


Obvious Support I made a little image of my own, like the current one, but with a gradient, and (hopefully) more recognizable. Here it is: 0MiPlZn.png Edit: I just realized it's a tad pixely. I'm not sure if I should make it at 1920x1080p 150 ppi then size it down. Sorry, I forgot to sign. I'm an idiot. King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 02:16, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I find your forgetfulness ironic, seeing that you have a pretty awesome signature. Joel amos Talk Contribs 02:25, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
Well, Joel, in all honesty, I have forgotten my own name. The thing is, though, it's what you get when you take multiple languages, throw them together, and add a bit of hard pronunciation. Thanks for the compliment, though.King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 03:34, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Don't care - I never notice the icon anyway. --LiquidTalk 05:30, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Proposed favicons

List of proposed favicons so far... since we have had so many submissions already!   az talk   05:30, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

1. Emoticon-Faviconnew_zps25737255.png sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 0 (voters)
2. http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4097/faviconsuggestion.png Joel amos Talk Contribs 0
3. http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/810/89603022.png Joel amos Talk Contribs 0
4. http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2453/7jtiaq2.png Dtm142 (talk) 0
5. Emoticon-Faviconstackedmerged_zps920e289c.png sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 1 (Regis)
6. Wiki6_zps61929468.png Henneyj 2 (Hairr, Regis)
7. Wiki5_zpse7d7dbc3.png Henneyj 2 (Hairr, Oli)
8. Wiki10_zps5da260a1.png Henneyj 2 (Joel, Alchez)
9. th_Wiki11_zps6812a0c9.png Henneyj 9 (Cam, Fswe, Real, Ryan, Hairr, Mol, Oli, Brains and 04ismailjj6)
10. Wiki12_zpsc5cc4722.png Henneyj 0
11. http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/8647/fzfpiej6.png Joel amos Talk Contribs 1 (Qloque)
12. 0MiPlZn.png King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 0
13. 2Jp1Njm.png King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 0
14. USAonwg.png King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 0
15. WsQag0s.png King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 0
16. 9L0x95j.png King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 0
17. 5DfdtZv.png King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 1 (Temu)
18.0 Wiki15_zpsd6d092a5.png Henneyj 1 (04ismailjj6)


I've removed what I had because it was absolutely awful and really only meant to get an idea across. MolMan 21:06, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

3 9 - Of the proposed so far, I like this the best. Because I haven't been paying much attention to this, are we having a vote on this here (because frankly consensus for 1 out of 13 icons is going to take ages), or is this going to RS:THEME? cqm 21:34, 6 Jun 2013 (UTC) (UTC) Edit: switching per 222. cqm 11:48, 8 Jun 2013 (UTC) (UTC)

I think we can have the voting here since RS:THEME is more for holiday themes and such.   az talk   23:31, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Comment - While your icons are nice, when I look at the RS3 Logo, then I look at your icons, it just doesn't....seem 'matching'. The icons give a....'Old School RuneScape' feel than a EoC/RS3 feel.--Jlun2 (talk) 23:37, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Dat cuz eoc sux MolMan 23:39, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
I thought the point of this thread was to replace the icon with something that better represents the site. :P--Jlun2 (talk) 01:14, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
yeah! someone should make one with the "RS" from the rs3 logo and a flaming "W" or "Wiki"...   az talk   09:09, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

9 - I like. Place it some pure essence to make it look like a rune, or spmething. That'd be nice... Caek. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 05:46, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

I made one for you like you wanted.King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 07:53, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
Hm... Not bad! The brown colour would need to be changed to make the letters legible though. Whatever. User_talk:Fswe1 Fswe1 Brassica Prime symbol.png 19:59, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

9 with the colour used in 2 17 per below - If someone could make that, that'd be great. Temujin 09:21, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Here you are, and it's great.King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 20:39, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks King kolton9 :) Temujin 03:40, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

9, but brighter - Looks good, just a bit too murky. Real Crazy 10:09, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

As requested.King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 20:39, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

9 - Best one and works well as both colors black and brown. Ryan PM 16:37, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

6/7/9 - I like the dark background on 6 and 7, but 9 is fine as well Hair 16:39, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Comment - I much prefer 9 over 17. It's much harder to read as a lighter color, especially when viewed inside a tab. 8 would probably be okay to make lighter though. Joel amos Talk Contribs 21:15, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

9 MolMan 21:19, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

8 - It's just a lot more visually-straightforward than 9. Joel amos Talk Contribs 21:40, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

7 - if not 7 then 9. Are we gonna do a shortlist? Ancient talisman.png Oil4 Talk 21:52, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

9 - Looks good here http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8059/no9r.png 222 talk 01:30, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

18/9 - I like number 18 but the letters are a bit too close and kinda blend in together. Maybe there could be a little bit of white in between them? If that's not possible due to space constraints then I prefer 9 for the new favicon. Also, can someone point out the difference between 9 and 10? They look identical too me,04ismailjj6 (talk) 11:34, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

The word "Wiki" is slightly larger/in a different font. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 11:35, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

[[File:RW logo.png]] - Haven't seen this brought up. We obviously should change this as well, but are we going to just make it an enlarged version of the favicon? Or are we going to allow ourselves to get creative? Also, can we change its format to svg instead of a png? MolMan 17:22, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

I think it'll depend on what favicon ends up being chosen. If it ends up being font-based (like the favored #9), then it would be really easy to and make the most sense to make an svg version. Joel amos Talk Contribs 18:17, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
What is that?04ismailjj6 (talk) 22:04, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
By all means have a ridiculously large svg version, but it has to be a .ico file due to what theme designer accepts iirc. It can be overridden, but it's a bad idea. cqm 23:11, 8 Jun 2013 (UTC) (UTC)
Who suggested that was supposed to be our favicon file? >.> MolMan 00:33, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

5 or 6 - The dark background really helps. 5-x Talk 10:08, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid. If it works for industrial design, it works for us. NO fancy please, it will make it un-readable, and unnecessary. Also, PLEASE don't do the RS then W below, it looks too much like the \ / W used wayyyy too often as slang. My idea, LIGHT background, dark, block letters. My business is flags, and trust me, it always works well.Ice Rush12Zaros symbol.pngTalkHiscores 05:11, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

8 - Pretty simple. Alchez 11:58, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

11 — minority view. I agree with Ice Rush above that simplicity is best for a favicon. This (or something similar) is an identifiable graphic, and easy for users to associate with RSWiki when showing on their tabs, URL bar, bookmarks, or history. The implementations with the several curly fonts look good as I sit here and deliberately examine them, but I believe they will just say blob to the majority who will see the favicon in their browser, but not focus on it.

The brackets should be reduced to 1px lines (or rather, the shading should be substantially lightened so that they don't appear to be 2px lines), but other than that I prefer this concept. Qloque (talk) 12:36, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Closed - There is consensus to update the Wiki's favicon. As it would be pointless to base the new favicon on people's opinions (because it's just an aesthetic feature), number 9 will be chosen. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 12:14, June 23, 2013 (UTC)