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This thread was archived on 1 May 2011 by Thebrains222.

There should be a guideline for using Categories in the RuneScape wiki. The RS Wiki has many categories which are not used properly. Furthermore, a significant amount of categories are obsolete.

Some examples to illustrate the size of this issue:

  • Category:PVP Items, Category:Revenant items
    Remove Category:PVP Items, since the new Revenant items category is more relevant
  • Category:Rings, Category:Ring slot items
    Remove Ring slot items, keep Rings: The Rings category includes ring items, but the Ring slot items category does not (e.g. Easter ring)
  • Similar categories for all of the other equipment slots
  • There are too many unimportant categories: Compare any revenant item with each other. Few of them are categorised using a consistent structure.

A guideline is necessary to make categorising more useful.
Wizard hat (g).pngMugger759 Talk Contribs 16:00, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

Comment - There is a small list of guidelines here. However, I think they could be improved. Having a list of categories with a small description of each, perhaps? sssSp7p.pngIjLCqFF.png 16:21, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - I agree somewhat with urbancowgurl. A short description for each category seems like a good idea to me. However, I don't think the categories are that badly mixed up for that to be put in motion. What I would recommend is if a user finds a cat that needs re-organizing, just fix it. I took a quick look at the ring cat example you gave. Simply substitute Category:ring slot item with Category:ring in each article. Then tag Category:ring slot items for deletion. Then lastly, rename Category:ring slot item images to Category:ring images. In short, the categories just need improvement. They don't need all new guidelines. This is enough. Fletching-icon.png Iceslide123 Fletching cape.pngFree UGCs

Question - Which other equipment slot categories are duplicative? The two I assume you're talking about are cape slot items and ammunition slot items, but those are not duplicates because there are items in the cape slot that are not capes, and ammunition that is not in the cape slot. However, I would love to write something up on parent-subcategory duplication. ʞooɔ 19:26, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - "There should be a guideline for using Categories in the RuneScape wikia." It's RuneScape Wiki, Wikia is a wikifarm that hosts the wiki. Very different things. Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 20:37, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oh for crying out loud, is that really necessary, Evil? Relax. A lot of people call it both anyways, it isn't a big deal, and doesn't impact the outcome of this discussion in any way, shape, or form. Furthermore, nobody's going to die, and if you honestly have nothing better to do than correct minor grammar mistakes (which is basically belittling), go outside for awhile. Andrew talk 00:33, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - Other examples of duplicates (use the autocomplete feature of Add category to find them): weapon, 2-handed.

The large amount of categories makes ordening not easy. Only the ones who have lots of experience on this wiki can add all of the relevant categories to a specific page. A simple guide which includes relationships between categories, suggestions for finding relevant categories and creating/deleting/moving categories would allow novice to categorise pages more effectively and correctly. As far as I know, it's possible to get a tree view of categories at Special:CategoryTree, but I don't know how to find the most relevant parent node easily. Ordening pages has a low priority to me, because the lack of a straight guideline, while the Main article is the most/only important part of an article. The varity of obvious categories (helmets, head slot items, equipment, items) for each page isn't encouraging me to add all categories either, since I'm almost confident that I forget a category, knowing that no-one notices (and fixes) it. Wizard hat (g).pngMugger759 Talk Contribs 20:50, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

See Category:RuneScape Wiki. ʞooɔ 21:30, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Comment - While I agree that our category structure is very messy, some users have been making efforts to tidy it up a little, however, that does not mean we should be removing categories for obvious things. Categories exist to classify groups of items for ease of navigation between related pages, and they are currently performing this job pretty well. Yes, I agree that many pages have a lot of categories, but adding more should not be an issue, especially when many of our navboxes already add the most important categories to a page. 222 talk 00:57, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Notice of intent - Unless there is more discussion, this will be closed within the next few days. 222 talk 10:47, April 29, 2011 (UTC)


Closed - No consensus to do anything here. 222 talk 06:05, May 1, 2011 (UTC)