Forum:Btzkillerv in the clan chat?

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This thread was archived on 8 August 2009 by Soldier 1033.


A while ago, a proposal was passed to ban btzkillerv from the clan chat forever. These days, I have seen him in there again. Not to say that btz has been showing the gross disrespect that he had been showing in the past, but I would like to know why it is that he is back in the cc again without a community vote. A proposal may be posted after a discussion has taken place about the topic.

Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 21:54, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Original banning discussion: Forum:Reqest to Ban user from clan chat Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 22:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

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It may have something to do with here. I see no reason for him to be in the CC - he was permanently ignored by R S Wikia and there has been no discussion to overrule that. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 22:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

You aren't treating him very good either. It has been 4 months since you banned him 'permanent'. (A month would have been better)
Since you're treating him like dirt, you don't know how much he has changed since you went like this on him. I am sure Hapi can confirm he isn't the same person as he 'used' to be. FredeTalk 22:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
For me personally I don't see this discussion as really being about Btz at all, I habour no ill feels toward him and probably never will. What I see here is someone who was banned via community consensus and and then unbanned without discussion. If there is one cardinal rule to decision making, it that a community discussion can only be over turned by another, rather than a single admin/user's opinion. However, I would still like to have more information about this and hear all sides before assuming anything though.-- 23:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Precisely. I wasn't involved in the original discussion, and have no prior involvement with Btz at all. He's just been unbanned without discussion, which I think is the wrong way to go about it (if you get my meaning). Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 23:10, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Frede, this has little to nothing to do with Btz. It is the fact that a yew grove decision has been overturned without another proposal. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 00:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I also curious as to how he has access to the clan chat when the consensus was to ban him. Lately I haven't seen him causing disruption or behaving like he used to (though I still notice that he gets annoyed when he is ignored, which was the reason I supported his ban) but nevertheless he was banned and there was no talk about allowing him a second chance or anything.  Tien  23:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

C Teng is the only one that has acess to the R S Wikia account. Perhaps we could ask him to explain his actions? — Enigma 00:32, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I would like to know why C Teng took it upon himself to unban someone who was permanently banned via community consensus. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  06:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

User_talk:Btzkillerv#for_the_love_of_god.... FredeTalk 07:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Yea... but what does that have to do with what we have at hand? A user has been unblocked from the chat without a yew grove forum to support it. Thats not ok, no matter who the forum is about. Btz has improved a fair amount, but that changes nothing without a yew grove thread to unblock him. Magic-icon.pngStelercusIlluminated Book of Balance.png 16:31, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Frede, I'm getting sick of you letting personal feelings get in the way and telling people things like "you're treating him like dirt". We've already made it very clear that this has nothing to do with the way anyone feels about Btz; he was banned from the clan chat via community consensus and therefore the only way to unban him is with community consensus. If you're going to participate in this discussion, be mature about it. Do not continue to add comments unless they are relevant. If you have facts to back up your opinion then that's great, otherwise telling people they "burned him at the stake" and linking us to Btz's talk page is irrelevant. Andrew talk 16:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Message left - I left a message on C Teng's talk page, asking him to join the discussion. Hopefully that will help clarify the situation as soon as we can find out what's going on. Then we can go from there. Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 19:29, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've added Btz to the Ignore List. Sorry, I thought it was only a temporary block when I removed him from the list. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 20:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll go ahead and archive this then, but in the future please don't remove someone from the R S Wikia ignore list unless you are 100% sure you are allowed to. Andrew talk 21:30, 8 August 2009 (UTC)