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This thread was archived on 8 March 2016 by Liquidhelium.

A couple of weeks ago Jagex released the ability to recall summoned avatars by using a rune in the clan citadel. This is now a permission that can be given to ranks clan admin+. Now that we have the ability to do this do clan members think we should use it? If we are going to use it how should the permission be given out?

My suggestion would be that we add a guideline about recalling the avatars from wardens who are lobbied or logged out only when there are no avatars available at the citadel and there is a warden wanting to summon an avatar. Personally, I lobby with the avatar quite often if I am going afk for a while with the intention of coming back and hosting the avatar again (I’m sure I’m not the only warden who does this). Having the avatar recalled in this situation would ultimately make it more inconvenient for wardens to host them and isn’t necessary unless there are no other avatars available.

If we adopt this guideline then I think we can simply enable the ability to recall avatars for clan admins. It’s simple to follow and situations where it would need to be used would be very rare. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 17:23, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

Discussion

We have used it and I think we should use it. Permission for everyone (admin+) because why not, if someone wants avatar and if there ain't one, get it from lobbier or logged person for him/herself! It would be good for all! ^^ Expect for the logged/lobbied person in case if s/he is coming back soon. 

Some small guideline ideas;

1. Mainly recall avatars from logged people, and with the use of common sense don't recall it immediately when person with avatar logs out, that might be just due connection problem or such, see clan chat if they said that they're gonna leave soon or so. 

I don't think there's much situations when you could take avatar from lobbier but here goes anyway:

2. If there is no avatars on offline nor in clan citadel, get it from lobbied person, wait a minute or few to see if s/he's coming back tho. Maybe ask in clan chat if anyone knows what s/he was doing before going into lobby?

Send pm and ask if it's fine to take it? No response in 5 minutes? Take it.

Metal3 (talk) 17:50, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

Just give it to admin+ - and UCS when it comes to using it. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 17:55, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

+1 cqm 19:43, 2 Mar 2016 (UTC) (UTC)

Comment - I gave out the organiser/deputy owner rank for recall to a few active admins over DXP weekend because of the increased demand on the avatars. I didn't think it was a big enough deal to discuss beforehand or to revert after DXP was over. As for guidelines, I trust that those involved can UCS on using recall. I don't think there's really enough demand for all admins to have recall - its not exactly often that all three avatars are out to begin with - but it doesn't matter to me if they do or don't (unless it becomes a problem). Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 17:58, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

It was a good idea to give the permission out over DXPW. There were times when all 3 avatars were summoned and I'm assuming, since I wasn't particularly active over the weekend, that recalling an avatar was actually necessary at some points. I agree that this situation very rarely happens (outside of bonus xp weekends) and most people would never need to use the ability to recall avatars. However I also think that that means it's unnecessary to restrict the permission to organiser+ ranks and select only some admins to be given this rank. The permission really isn't such a big deal/extra responsibility that it needs to be distinguished in this way - all of our current admins could be trusted with it and doing so would make it more likely that someone would be around to recall avatars if needed. I think the organiser and deputy owner ranks that were given out during the weekend should be changed back now and the avatar recall permission given to clan admins in addition to ranks higher to this. Magic logs detail.pngIsobelJTalk page 11:44, March 5, 2016 (UTC)

Is it really needed? - From what I gather, there never has been a shortage of ava availability in RSW,(I might be wrong, haven't used the avatar buff in quite a while) considering that we have only one homeworld, and at most times some or the other warden is online and there is an avatar present on w39. Covering the other worlds doesn't seem necessary.Mistydarkness (talk) 01:14, March 3, 2016 (UTC)

We actually have 4 clan worlds, per RS:CC. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 13:38, March 3, 2016 (UTC)

Comment - I think Gaz had a good idea. It's not a big deal anyway. Also ideally, you shouldn't lobby with the avatar, as we established it may lead to the despawn glitch. 5-x Talk 12:20, March 5, 2016 (UTC)

Question As 5-x mentioned above, lobbying with an avatar may cause glitchy behavior. Does recalling the avatar from someone in the lobby produce the same behavior, or prevent it? Cause if it can prevent the bug and an admin cannot get an avatar because one is missing, they should probably have the right to recall another if it's lobbied. -- Golden warpriest of Zamorak helm.png Wingcap Firemaking master cape.png 01:12, March 6, 2016 (UTC)

Closed - Basically people agree on Using Common Sense. It seems that there is a weak consensus on having admin+'s have the recall right. If it becomes an issue then it can be changed by Gareth anyway. Almost all admins are avatar wardens currently. --LiquidTalk 21:21, March 8, 2016 (UTC)