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This thread was archived on 3 March 2008 by Earthere.

Currently, it says all editors are equal regardless of in-game powers (i. e. modship) or RuneScape wiki powers (i. e. adminship). I think that we should extend or clarify the policy to say that all editors are also equal regardless of in-game levels or experience. I've had some, er, problems with it before that have hampered my editing and I'd like to make sure it doesn't happen on the wiki again because of mis-clarification. What do you all think? Butterman62 (talk) Ice Barrage icon.png 23:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, responding to previous discussion, as a note of clarification, obviously, if someone who has done a given quest and someone who has not done it, and they are arguing which particular fact is right, then, yes, the argument of the one who has done the quest might have more weight. However, it's when you have edits like this and this that there is a serious issue, and these types of edits need to be stopped. I think that everyone on the wiki should have an equal right to edit, and such behavior demines the purpose of a wiki. Butterman62 (talk) Ice Barrage icon.png 01:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Note: I think there is widespread support of this. When can it become real? Butterman62 (talk) Ice Barrage icon.png 02:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Support Butterman62 (talk) Ice Barrage icon.png 23:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Support[[Image:Kandarincrest.gif|25px]]Chicken7 >talk>sign 00:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support Man, people have bragged "i can 2hit you so buzz off" too many times. I don't know why this isn't already listed. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 00:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Comment Yes, too, I've been told such things, such as "please let the high-level _ fix this", "unless you have the experience, don't edit". It needs to stop :). Butterman62 (talk) Ice Barrage icon.png 01:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support - This reminds of me of that whole slayer edit war....... ChristineTalkFlickr 02:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Leaning toward support Agreed that the "my str is higher then ur str stupid noob" bullying sucks. Still, if a level 99 woodcutter says that the dragon axe is faster than a rune axe, I'm more inclined to believe him than someone with 60 woodcutting who says it isn't. May be coloured blue in the near
  • Strong support I have got this said to me a few times. Why isn't it here already? Green partyhat.png Bob2006ty(RUNESTORM333)  talk Green partyhat.png 17:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support In the context of articles and administrative stuff. There was some talk below about this impacting the forums. Personally I don't think we should be applying this policy to forums at all, the policy is meant to establish a commonality between editors, not forum members. It's not that I think that forum members aren't equal, it's just that this policy isn't, and should not, be extended to the forums, as it's not applicable to them. I also agree with what Abyssal/Earthere said, that relevant experience shouldn't be dismissed. If you're editing a quest page having never done the quest, and are countering what someone who's done the quest is writing, don't expect your argument to hold much weight. Endasil (Talk) @ 22:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support I think the idea of this is that players with more experience aren't automatically right, although they may be correct anyway. It's simply to prevent dismissal of newer players' arguments without consideration in discussion or editing. Skill 23:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support Ok, spank the bullies.--Degenret01 23:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support Seriously, this kind of stuff doesn't belong on the Wiki. This is the kind of immature behaviour that many players in-game exhibit, and maybe Jagex tolerates it, but it isn't accepted here.Yellow partyhat.png Ilyas Talk Contribs 21:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support - I didn't think people accually did that here. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 21:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


When you say you want clarification exactly what are you hoping to have happen? I think a few idiots considering themselves better because of thier RS accounts hardly merits any sort of attention. Are there so many that it's hard to ignore? I am really curious, as I haven't seen any. But I don't go on forums or anything.--Degenret01 11:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

It's not really that there's a lot of people, it's just really annoying. I don't you'd want me saying something like "ok well duel me ingame and can hit doubl 72s on you ooo what now?" (Okay, that's a bit exagerated.) or anything. (I don't mean to be starting an argument, but since you said "I don't go on forums or anything.", it gives me the idea that you've never seen this. I'm just trying to give an example.)
It can be even more annoying when a veteran wikian, and most likely an admin, like Sacre Fi for example, gets bullied by a new user who judges others by their levels. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 11:57, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Degenret, it's not the problem that people just bully others on the wiki (though that could be considered a personal attack). The problem is that someone reverts another user's edits solely on the fact that he/she is higher level/better in that area then others. Butterman62 (talk) Ice Barrage icon.png 18:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree its awfully moronic of them to think they are better based on in game stats. What I am missing here is this - What exactly are you proposing to solve the problem? If these goons dont respect the wikia way as it is now, how is restating an ideal going to help? Please understand me, I am not trying to argue for doing nothing. Or accepting it. I'm trying to see how this can be resolved is all.--Degenret01 03:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The page only covers wiki things, like adminship, 'cratship, editcount, etc. (last time I read it). An important thing it does/did not cover was levels in-game. In RuneScape, as we all well know, higher levels stereotypically like to make fun of lower levels by calling them "noob"s, insulting them, bullying and such. If a high leveled editor (let's say level 135) reads the page and understands that they are equal to sysops in say and such, they may think that they can still bully others depending on level. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 06:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Degenret, what I think would solve it is have the policy say, for example, "you can't do that". In other words, it would be like a rule, which, if broken, could lead to consequences. Butterman62 (talk) Ice Barrage icon.png 13:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, if you think it could help, ok. For some reason I get the image of the local thugs being reminded that thier selling crack is illegal and thier expected response to that. But if you block people for a couple days for being jerks and breaking rules, hey, it could work. I'll go to support now.--Degenret01 23:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Because of universal community support, the proposed clarification will be carried out in RuneScape:All editors are equal. May be coloured blue in the near