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This thread was archived on 19 January 2013 by Liquidhelium.

Requests for clan chat ranks take place on the wiki, and not many RSW clanmates know about them or comment on them. I think that because the RfRs affect primarily the clan chat and clanmates, that we should do a better job of letting them know. This proposal is essentially to condone third-party advertising of RfRs. It's not officially disallowed (though I do think that most people frown upon candidates promoting themselves), and Gareth and (to a lesser extent) I have already been doing small-scale advertising.

This proposal is just to let people know and/or rubber stamp the advertising process. I should note that this should only be done by neutral parties in a neutral fashion (so obviously, "Go support me on my RfCCA" or "Go oppose so-and-so because he's a noob" are not allowed). --LiquidTalk 16:59, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Supportish - I see no issue with people advertising their own RfR. If they are being annoying with it, we'd learn they're not right for the position anyway. Also I see no issues with others advertising others RfRs, unless they start spamming in which they can be beat down by sweet justice. svco4bY.png3Gf5N2F.png 19:54, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

As long as it's to inform, not influence, it's fine. When I was active in the game I used to often mention ongoing RfRs in the Clan Chat when they required attention and as far as I remember no one ever had an issue with it. The only problems arise from, as Tyler has said, candidates canvassing their own request and trying to garner support. Third-parties (as long as they don't advertise it with bias) are sound. Ronan Talk 20:06, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Neutral - I can see it's always going to be a grey area on what constitutes canvassing and what constitutes informing. As such, I would be inclined to limit it to public clan chat, to prevent someone pming the more un-wiki-wise members of the clan chat. Ideally, I would limit it to admins doing it in a neutral way as and when they feel informing is required, but I'm not sure how feasible that would be.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cåm (talk) on 11 January 2013 at 21:16 UTC.

PMing in any form is canvassing/influencing the vote since you are picking those who are voting* and therefore skew the vote*. Announcements in the clan chat are less of an issue because they're equally accessible to clan members and only relevant to the clan chat in the first place.
  • For want of better word --Henneyj 22:06, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Support - I don't see why not, as long as they announce RfRs in a npov. RfRs should get as much attention as other processes, and it's a shame that the only attention they get is from people who either edit the wiki or speak in IRC. HaidroH rune.pngEagle feather 3.pngCandle (blood red).png 1XqyDNM.png Crystal triskelion fragment 3.pngHazelmere's signet ring.png 00:27, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Support - Don't see any issues. Hair 02:27, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Support - As long as it is stressed to be neutral advertising and not canvassing. For now, as RfSerg/Lieu's are closed, we shouldn't see a problem with any RfCCA that had a chance of passing; hopefully that will set an example if RfS/L are opened in future. Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 17:52, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Support - As long as it's neutral.--Cheers, Off-hand ascension crossbow.pngYodaAscension crossbow.png 20:03, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Support - I used to report on current RfRs in game, when they had little to no input. I'd say a candidate should either not advertise his/her own RfR or announce it in a distanced manner — like "There's a new RfR" —, though.

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20:09, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Support - per all S T Y G 03:11, January 15, 2013 (UTC)

Support - Solely neutral. User:Exor Solieve 18:10, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Support - Per Gaz King Kolton9 (9 more options)  Choose OptionUser Page King Kolton9 (Level: 9000)Talk to King Kolton9Edit Count King Kolton9Chat at IRCMy Pages My SandboxMy Contributions 18:16, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Closed - Users are permitted to advertise requests for rank in the clan chat in a neutral fashion. --LiquidTalk 00:23, January 19, 2013 (UTC)