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This thread was archived on 5 July 2009 by Calebchiam.

Well, as Wikia is welcoming all new users, there is no need for the welcoming comitee. Joe Click Here for Awesomeness17:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I say to the bot needs to go. I enjoyed welcoming people, but now I don't have a chance with that stupid thing. It just doesn't make you feel special when you're welcomed. Just a bot, doing it's thing... -- 22:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Whoopsie, I'm not logged in... >.> -- 22:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
That was me.-- 22:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Well the welcome template we used before looked automated, and besides, this assures that all users are welcomed and makes sure we didn't miss any. Rollback crown.svg Spencer (Talk | Edits | Contribs) 22:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Did we have any sort of vote on the bot being used? -- 22:49, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I think not. It just up and appeared on the Call of Duty Wiki, "welcoming" anyone from legit new editors to IPs that added "this gun sux" to an article.
I honestly think that the Wikia welcome bot should be deactivated for this wiki, or be blocked to prevent it from sending the automated welcome messages.
With welcoming, it's like saying "Hello there. Here's some info about this site. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.". You can't very well ask a bot a question, can you? The Welcoming Commitee- while I don't want any part with it -was doing more than just fine before the bot came along. We don't need the bot, and we can actually answer questions left by the new people we welcomed. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 00:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Reminds me of how machines/bots are still taking our "jobs." =/ Santa hat.png Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 00:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

For clarification, the bot only welcomes new registered users, 1 minute after their first edit, and is signed with the most recent administrator's name. Should they have questions, they are likely to catch the admin while they are on. Karlis (talk) (contribs) 01:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

The bot does not only send messages to registered users. It welcomes IPs quite often (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and hundreds of other incidences I won't bother to link to). On the note of signing in the name of the most recently edited sysop, isn't that impersonation? I certainly would not want a bot welcoming every new editor it sees left and right in my name. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 23:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Notice Those are not on the RuneScape Wiki. The administrators have failed to disable welcoming IP's on the wikis mentioned. The bot only welcomes Registered Users on this wiki. Karlis (talk) (contribs) 11:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
You didn't limit your statement to this wiki alone, so neither did I. I wasn't trying to be misleading if that's how I came across. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 07:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that the welcoming committee is a nice touch. I'd prefer if we have interested users welcoming our new users. As long as we are catching all the new users, I think this is much better than having a bot welcome people. Just my 2 cents Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 05:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I am not saying I think that the bot is a good idea, but if it can't be stopped then there is no need for the welcoming comitee. Joe Click Here for Awesomeness09:24, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, blocking it would rather sufficiently stop it. Dragon medium helm! Whaddaya know?Chiafriend12Better than rune!I have 12 friends. 23:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Can we make it five or ten minutes instead of one minute? - 14:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Perhaps a solution could be that the bot only welcomes users once per day and only to new users that already don't have the welcome on their talk page ? This way the bot catches any users the WC have let slip and keeps the WC happy ? Nacho Novo9 18:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment - The bot is fairly customisable - see it's user page for information on how to do so. Specific options I think might be useful are disabling the welcoming of unregistered or registered users, and changing who it signs as. Quartic ~ insanity is a virtue | Talk 04:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Ten minutes sounds like a better window of time, that way it gives the Welcoming Committee plenty of time to welcome a user and if no one is around the new user will still get the automatic welcome. The last welcome I made was the day before the bot got introduced, one minute is hard to do for even the most vigilant recent changes patroller. Zaros tally.PNGBladeQuick chat button.png# 05:24, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I haven't greeted a single user since the bot came out, and I love to greet new users. Like most people have suggested, a longer period of time before the bot greets a new user sounds good.  Tien  12:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Well then why don't we take a consensus. Either block bot or delay it.Joe Click Here for Awesomeness12:55, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

You can't delay it. It was a tool created by central to ensure that every new users gets welcomed. It uses the exact same template that everyone places on the user's talk page. This tool was designed to make sure nobody gets missed. If you see someone that just made an edit, beat the bot. Karlis (talk) (contribs) 13:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Beat the bot? That's almost impossible. -- 13:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

WE never voted on if the community wanted the bot, it should be stopped until we have a vote.-- 13:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

It's disabled, welcome away. Karlis (talk) (contribs) 13:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

HOORRRAAAAYYYY thanks karlis. No more stinking wikia.Joe Click Here for Awesomeness14:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

It's been disabled for about an hour and our "Welcoming committee" has already missed new users. This goes to show that the bot is more beneficial than anyone here has given it credit for. Their contributions are already off the recent changes, and they would have been forgotten about if I wouldn't have said anything. It was created for this exact reason. Karlis (talk) (contribs) 15:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Up to 4 unwelcomed now. =\ Karlis (talk) (contribs) 20:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Something like this still needs a consensus. -- 23:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps the users of the welcoming committee would like it more if, rather than it automatically signing with the most recent admin, that is signed with a signature made for the Welcoming committee members? This is an option, and gives the new user the ability to contanct anyone on it should they have any questions? Otherwise, I am going to re-enable it as we have already had many new users in the past few hours go unwelcomed. Karlis (talk) (contribs) 20:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Re-enabling it, nobody is paying attention to our new users. Karlis (talk) (contribs) 20:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

It still deserves a consensus. -- 15:29, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Let's get some consensus before taking all these actions. If I were on the WC (I'm not) I'd be peeved to discover that I was replaced by a bot without consensus. I also don't think that disabling the bot without telling anyone (like everyone in the WC) and finding that no one is welcoming new users anymore proves anything. I would expect most WC members stopped trying to welcome after the bot started. I suggest that

  1. We ask all the listed members of the WC if they are still interested in welcoming.
  2. Find out about how often they can welcome.
  3. And figure out if we can welcome all the new users ourselves.
  4. After that, we decide to disable the bot or abolish the WC.

How's that for an idea? Air rune.png Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune.png 01:13, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Edit the bot. Rather than that crappy little 'hi' message, give it the full welcome template the WC use (sorry if this comment is out-of-date and that's already been changed). Also, don't let it welcome IPs. Change it to follow that. ~ Fire Surge icon.png Sentry Telos Talk  09:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Maybe it's just me, but some users seem to edit the wiki once and never come back. If a user really wanted to stay, he would make more than one edit, and surely someone in the Committee would notice him by then. I would, at least.  Tien  13:20, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I think that Karlis' suggestion, of the bot signing with a welcoming committee signature, is a good idea. Then new users would have a choice of users to go to that may be happier to help than a the last-active admin (not that they wouldn't be happy to help, but you get my point - the welcoming committee are a group of users always glad to help new users). Quest.png Gaz Lloyd 7:^]Events!99s 20:28, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

IT'S NOT WAITING A MINUTE TO WELCOME PEOPLE. I HAVE A SCREENSHOT TO SHOW YOU. Gotta eat though. I'll show it soon. -- 16:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Ah, poo, I forgot to save the screenshot and now I can't... oh nevermind. Anyway, it doesn't wait a minute to welcome someone. It should be blocked. It's the WC's job. And karlis, you totally took the bot off out of nowhere, which really isn't fair. why am I saying this. A consensus needs to be made. Now. -- 19:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Come on, people! This is important...-- 13:19, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment: The bot has been disabled, so now people can start welcoming new users. So the abolish of the Welcoming Committee would lead to little to no one welcoming. I feel that we should keep the committee up for now, and see how we all do without the bot. Get welcoming! ~MuzTalk 19:52, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Would of been nice if I'd known the bot was disabled. :/-- 20:05, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I just got to give my first welcome in weeks. Finally. -- 20:31, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be on the site notice or something that the bot has been disabled? Make sure that everyone knows so they won't expect the bot to get it?

Closed - The bot has been disabled and the Welcoming Committee will not be abolished. C.ChiamTalk 12:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)