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This thread was archived on 22 January 2011 by Liquidhelium.

First, an explanation of what the following is. This thread is a discussion for major events that occurred in the past year for our wiki, the RuneScape Wiki. It is similar to the "Year in Review" programmes that are often broadcast on television on the 31st of December, but instead of images/videos, we will have a discussion.

Below is a list I compiled with help from Sentra of major changes, updates and events that occurred in the year 2010, the list may not be complete, nor is it completely unbiased. Please discuss these events in the discussion, and if need be, bring up any points I have left out.

2010 was an eventful year for the RuneScape Wiki, with many changes, updates and events re-shaping the wiki and it's community. Some important and well recognised events are listed below:

  • The controversial release of Oasis (Wikia), with much outcry from the wiki as well as the many other editors from other wikis. The RuneScape Wiki had multiple discussions on the topic of moving away from Wikia due to changes brought forth by the introduction of Oasis (Wikia)
  • The wiki reached 100 million site views. Early in 2010, the RuneScape Wiki reached 100 million siteviews, 5 years after its establishment and ended the year with over 123.1million views.
  • Achieving the 15,000 and 16,000 article mark. Reinforcing it's reputation as the most comprehensive guide to RuneScape with 16,416 articles and counting.
  • A new theme was decided upon for the Wiki. After deciding that the default Oasis theme was too bland for our Wiki, with a poll and consensus, a new skin was chosen and will be released in January 2011.
  • The inaugural Fansite Tournament. Planned and run by Swiz, the 2010 Fansite Torunament was a success and involved 3 of RuneScape's major fansites.
  • The Wiki obtaining Silver fansite status on Jagex's Recognised Fansite List. When Jagex released it's list of officially recognised RuneScape Fansites, the Wiki was left off the list until recently receiving Silver status, a position that was argued by many players, editors and non-editors alike, to have been a position too low for the Wiki's comprehensiveness and content.
  • The creation of the Custodian usergroup. With the Custodian usergroup, maintenance can be completed faster and useful tools are available to many more editors.
  • The approval and granting of sysop tools to nine new administrators, one new forum-admin and two new bureaucrats. 9 editors, Haloolah123, Ajraddatz, Cook Me Plox, Aburnett, Liquidhelium, Stelercus, Rich Farmbrough, Frede173, and Rwojy were granted administrator tools in 2010; Dave Lopo was granted forumadmin tools and Karlis, as well as Calebchiam were granted bureaucrat tools.

Apologies to anyone who is still lingering in 2010, its already past 5pm on the 1st here. Discuss, 222 talk 06:10, January 1, 2011 (UTC)


/Archive of the old "discussion". Includes spam as well as the legitimate discussion.

Comment - Liquid suggested I archive the previous content of the thread as it was mainly useless and contained a lot of spam. In trying to prevent a re-occurrence of the archived discussion, I would like to say that this thread is about discussing the events of the past year, as well as our outlook for this year, NOT stupid "opinions" e.g. Strong comment and stuff like that. 222 talk 01:55, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Strong comment - I would just like to say that I think of Oasis and the changes to the TOS are the most important things which happened at the wiki this year. Because of them, it is my opinion the wiki suffered a very serious blow, and the long term affects of it have not yet been realised. Everyone here can hide things like the rail and tweak their personal skin files to make a passable skin, but anonymous and new users cannot. I have left the my skin files completely untouched and when I use the wiki I feel frustrated, and like nothing is where it should be. While I use it I am bombarded by ads and all sorts of web 2.0 social networking nonsense. It comes as no surprise, then, that many of our anonymous users feel this way as well. I would not be surprised to see someone come here and leave right away, thinking they had stumbled onto some RuneScape facebook group. My thoughts are more precisely detailed in the thread I started (the results of which I am disappointed by) but I will repeat that I feel like we're no longer a fansite, as much as we are a collection of information that we have no actual control over, a repository of facts that wikia uses dispassionately and clinically to make money. That's why I don't edit much anymore, in case anyone has taken note of this. I don't want to devote time like I used to, not when my efforts are just going to be exploited as part of some corporate mechanism. For me, the magic is gone and its been replaced by the sickening notion that I've been tricked into working for free to make someone else money. kitty.pngPsycho Robot talkSilver bar.png 09:34, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Curses! Someone found a way around my draconian regulations! 222 talk 10:14, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
I completely agree with Psycho. Especially the last sentence. --LiquidTalk 23:22, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
Yep. I use the wiki basically unmodified, and I am repeatedly frustrated by how difficult editing is. --Aburnett(Talk) 23:26, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
I completly agree with Liquid. 23:27, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
Comment - You guys still didn't move to another wiki? Man, I left here 2 months ago because I couldn't stand the horror of the new skin, and you are all still sitting here, waiting for the moment you 'will get used to it'? Well, you won't. Take my advice and leave now, or you might continue losing a lot of editors and the wiki will bleed to death. Have some guts and take the jump, the consequences of a move will be far less grave than those of staying here. The layout and usability are ruined, it's just not fun anymore to edit. I don't care if the design was done by experts, it doesn't fit the needs of an encyclopedia anymore. I know you might not listen since I'm the guy with only 157 edits, but please, I still care about the wiki, don't let it die now. Regards, Lutecium 13:34, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
I got used to it. --Iiii I I I 14:46, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
And if you look at much more people are getting used to it too. We are going up again, so don't say things like "or you might continue losing a lot of editors and the wiki will bleed to death" because it is based on nothing and it is not true. We even had the highest amount of visitors from the Netherlands EVER from the netherlands 3,845 days ago. That is not what i call bleeding to death. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 15:00, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I must apologize for saying things which are not true. But it simply makes me sad (and yes, a bit angry) that in these times of open source and the freedom of the internet people still accept changes they dislike (according to the polls), are not an improvement (own opinion, but I sincerely believe most editors agree, the new look is worse for editing articles than before), and ugly (I wouldn't dare to make a list of pages which look wrong - even your userpage, Joeytje50, looks bad because the right side is partly covered by white space or boxes). Ok, 'ugly' is subjective, but I suppose there is a reason why so many people have to use a css-file to get rid of all the bars, ads and boxes. It makes me think a bit of geese being force-fed to make foie gras... Sorry for the ranting, I guess I'm getting old, but I just have to let you know about my frustration I feel every time I look at this site and think about how it used to be. And no, I am not a person to dislike every new facebook layout or runescape update etc., but this Wikia thing is just too much for me :) Lutecium 15:32, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

I like Oasis. Apparently, I am in the minority here. White partyhat old.png C Teng talk 20:26, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see much of a problem with it either Lol Real Mad 19:36, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
Throw on adblock and it's fine by me. Sure, the moneymaking off our hard work sucks, but Wikia is not a nonprofit organization so what else could be expected? melonWatermelon slice.png 23:03, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
What could be expected is what they did with monaco. I don't think there is any other site as big as this with this many ads. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 08:41, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
What I'm trying to say is that Wikia isn't a nonprofit organization. They are out to make money and they have been since their beginnings. We knew this signing up with them and so we aren't justified in complaining that they are doing what they were created to do. There's nothing we can do about it while staying with Wikia. It isn't fair for us to be mad at them. Do you get mad at your local transit system for having advertising on the side of their busses? melonWatermelon slice.png 04:30, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
Sometimes... Full Slayer Helmet! Evil1888 Talk A's L Dragon Platebody! 04:33, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
To stay at your bus ad example, having as much ads as on the rswiki in the bus would be like having an ad at the side of the bus, then when entering you see another ad, then you take a seat see another ad, you look at the window but instead see another ad, then take a newspaper, but instead its an ad, If it isn't enough some speakers tell you the other bus company is actually much better, you want to leave but before you can open the door you see another ad, and then a guy outside gives you a flyer. I think thats pretty much advertising. And that is exactly what happens when looking at the rswiki in oasis. And yes, there are really 8 ads on each page:
  1. A sq ad in the sidebar
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3 ads in the sidebar(for other wikis)
  5. Sponsored links, sometimes saying we are bad, and you should go somewhere else
  6. 1
  7. 2
  8. 3 ads in the bottom line(for other wikis)
So i'm sorry, but i don't really know any other place in the world with this many ads. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 22:54, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
I like it too. Hunter cape (t).png Sentra246Blue hallowe'en mask.png 13:38, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
Cute, an Oasis lovers reunion... Smile for a nice picture! JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 14:44, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - The consensus seems to be that Oasis has too many advertisements and that people agree with Psycho. In the grand scheme of things, nothing interesting happened. --LiquidTalk 23:59, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

wat   Swizz Talk   Events!   00:06, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Community-wise - Well this year has started well, the first ever Wiki Events Team event, Zammy GWD drew and most importantly sustained 70 users for over 4 hours which is amazing. The second, a rev hunt in f2p, bought around 70-90 users and even though the event didn't quite go to plan, it was still pretty fun. The type of users we're getting are not editors, nor CC users. They're random people who visit the site, which is great because we can tell them the benefits of signing up which gets us more editors, or the benefits of joining the CC, which means we get more CC regulars. The Events Team has been a great success thus far, in my opinion. We're working well as a group and organising decent events which should hopefully improve one of the most lacking aspect of the wiki which also should be the most important. The community.   Swizz Talk   Events!   00:06, January 23, 2011 (UTC)