Dorgesh-Kaan market trading

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The busy marketplace of the Dorgeshuun.

Dorgesh-Kaan market trading is an activity that can be played at the market of Dorgesh-Kaan. It revolves around selling "exotic" surface foods to Dorgeshuun gourmets for a certain price, with some foods being more or less desired than others. If executed well, a significant amount of money may be earned this way. Completion of Death to the Dorgeshuun is required to access the market.

Starting out[edit | edit source]

Before being able to sell foods, you will need to get permission first. This is done by speaking to Lurgon, owner of Dorgesh-Kaan General Supplies - he can be found wandering around the middle of the market. He will explain the basics of trading and inform you that you will need permission from the Dorgeshuun Council first, with a certain (random) councillor in charge of the marketplace. Find this councillor and ask for permission, which you are granted instantly. Return to Lurgon - you will now be able to sell food to the goblins.

Councillor Location Minimap
Ur-lun chathead.png Ur-lun In the south-east of the city, along with Ur-pel.
Ur-meg chathead.png Ur-meg In her house west of the market, south of Barlak's shop.
Ur-pel chathead.png Ur-pel In the south-east of the city, along with Ur-lun.
Ur-taal chathead.png Ur-taal In the north-west of the city, by the large pond and outside Oldak's laboratory, along with Ur-zek.
Ur-tag chathead.png Ur-tag East of the council's meeting room in the north-east of the city, on the first floor.
Ur-vass chathead.png Ur-vass Slightly north-east of the market, east of the fountains.
Ur-zek chathead.png Ur-zek In the north-west of the city, by the large pond and outside Oldak's laboratory, along with Ur-taal.

Overview[edit | edit source]

Trading with a gourmet. Note Lurgon, with top hat, in the background.

As a result of the established connection to the surface, many goblins have got a crave for tasting exotic human food. There are four differently dressed gourmets wandering around the market, to whom you are able sell your food. Simply use a piece of food on them and name your price. If your price is too high, however, the gourmet will not buy anything since the food will be too expensive for them; likewise, if the price is too low, the goblin will think the food is of poor quality and not buy it either. If the gourmet agrees with the price, they will offer to buy a certain amount of food (usually up to five pieces depending on whether the price was on the low or high end) and you may agree to sell or decline. If you don't have the amount of food the gourmet desires, you may still sell what you have. Moreover, it is not required to stick with the gourmet's wish - you may sell less if you want to. After completing a transaction with one of the gourmets, you must trade with a different one next - the gourmets will not want to buy from you twice in a row.

Offering a suitable price is tricky. You may use the food on Lurgon to get a rough estimate of the price that the food goes for, along with some advice (see the last section for these prices). This price is usually higher than its high level alchemy value, but it depends on popularity as well. You may deviate from the suggested price, but not too much. As a rule of thumb, the foods will generally sell best for slightly above Lurgon's price if the gourmet liked its look or smell.

After a successful trade, a grateful gourmet may also give you some Dorgeshuun food for free. This will be one out of mushrooms, fillets, roast frog, eel sushi or grubs à la mode.

Gourmet's reaction[edit | edit source]

When determining your price, the gourmet's reaction to the food must be taken into account as well. If they react positively, they will be willing to pay more. However, if they don't like the look of the food, they will not pay as much and it may be a good idea to try selling to a different gourmet, preferably the one with the most positive response. Additionally, it's important to sell a variety of food types; the novelty of all foods quickly wears off, causing the gourmets to pay less if offered the same type of food repeatedly. However, this discount due to repeated selling is only about 0.7% of the price, and can nearly be ignored.

Gourmet's response Reaction Multiplier
Yuck, that looks horrid. What is it? Very negative 1
Eww, what's that? Negative 1.5
So what's that then? Neutral 2
That smells nice; what is it? Positive 2.5
Mmm, that smells good... What is it? Very positive 3

Making an offer[edit | edit source]

To determine the price that a Gourmet is willing to pay, find the price of the item (either by talking to Lurgon or consulting the table below). Then, multiply this price by the multiplier given by their reaction. The Gourmet's response to your price is then a function of the ratio between your offered price and this calculated value. For example, when offering a Rocktail (which has a Dorgeshuun value of 300) to a Gourmet that had a "positive" response, that Gourmet will "value" it at 2.5 times the Dorgeshuun value, or 750 coins. If you were to offer to sell the rocktail for 320 coins (which is about 43% of 750), the Gourmet would offer to buy two of them, since that's the response for an offer in the 40% to 45% range.

Gourmet's response Price range (% of value)
Hmm...if you're selling them that cheaply there must be something wrong with them. I think I'll pass. ≤ 10% (won't buy)
That sounds like a great deal to me. I'll take five! ≤ 25%
That sounds like a great deal to me. I'll take four! ≤ 35%
That sounds like a good deal to me. I'll take three! ≤ 40%
That sounds like a good deal to me. I'll take two! ≤ 45%
That's fair. I'll take one. ≤ 50%
Hmm, okay. I'll buy one. ≤ 60%
That's a bit much for me. ≤ 100%
Don't be absurd - it's clearly not worth that! no limit (won't buy)

The trick is to find a balance between a high price and the gourmet's willingness to buy more pieces. Sometimes, lowering the price a bit may lead to greater profits since the gourmet will want to buy more. It's always handy to bring several pieces of the foods you are trying to sell.

Overselling[edit | edit source]

If you sell too many of the same item, over time, the Gourmets will start to offer less money for it. The discount is 1% multiplied by how many of the item you've sold, but this count decrements by one every minute. It is world-specific and true for all players. The discount is capped at 50%, meaning the Gourmets will always pay at least half of the normal price, even if you've sold thousands. You can get a sense of whether the Gourmets are tired of a particular food based on their dialogue response:

Count Response
0 Ooh, I've never had that before. How exciting!
1-10 Oh, I think I've heard people talking about that.
11-20 Oh, of course. I've had that occasionally.
21-40 Oh, we have that all the time.
40+ That again?

It's also possible that a gourmet is really amazed by the food, which will lead to a craze for that particular food. This allows you to charge more for that food for a limited amount of time, as the gourmets will pay more for it.

Types of food[edit | edit source]

Preferred food[edit | edit source]

The following are valued by the Dorgeshuun at triple their item value, prompting Lurgon to say "That looks like exactly the sort of food people are looking for!"

Item Price GE price
Half anchovy pizza 90 987
Half meat pizza 75 896
Half pineapple pizza 150 163
Half plain pizza 60 1,532
1/3 evil turnip 30 34
2/3 cake 90 865
2/3 chocolate cake 150 773
2/3 evil turnip 60 131
Açaí 3 Not sold
Almond toffee 30 Not sold
Anchovy pizza 180 654
Avocado wrap 150 Not sold
Baguette 120 783
Banana stew 900 Not sold
Bean wrap 150 Not sold
Beef-filled flatbread 300 Not sold
Holy biscuits 60 Not sold
Bread 72 231
Butterfly chicken 300 Not sold
Cake 150 452
Caramel cup 30 Not sold
Cave nightshade 90 Not sold
Celebration cake 450 Not sold
Celebration cake (unlit) 750 Not sold
Celebration cake (lit) 750 Not sold
Cheese 24 304
Chicken-filled flatbread 300 Not sold
Chilli chocolate 300 Not sold
Choc ice 90 2,457
Chocolate bar 60 409
Chocolate cake 210 517
Chocolate drop 3 Not sold
Chocolate dust 60 590
Chocolate slice 90 51
Chocolatey milk 6 Not sold
Christmas pudding 3 Not sold
Coconut cream 300 Not sold
Cooked crab meat (5) 150 Not sold
Cooked crab meat (4) 120 Not sold
Cooked crab meat (3) 90 Not sold
Cooked crab meat (2) 60 Not sold
Cooked crab meat (1) 30 Not sold
Cooked fishcake 300 Not sold
Cooked oomlie wrap 105 11,972
Corn chips 300 Not sold
Curry 60 480
Doughnut 30 1,842
Dwarven delight 300 Not sold
Easter egg 30 511,543,047
Edible seaweed 6 1,106
Evil turnip 90 2,705
Fish-filled flatbread 300 Not sold
Fried mushrooms 126 519
Fried onions 21 53
Gorajian mushroom 240 3,410
Hazelnut praline 30 Not sold
Juju gumbo 60 Not sold
Kebab 9 558
Lemon truffle 30 Not sold
Magical bunny egg 30 Not sold
Magical chick egg 30 Not sold
Magical lamb egg 30 Not sold
Meat pizza 150 507
Mint fondant 30 Not sold
Monkey bar 150 Not sold
Monkey nuts 9 Not sold
Mulled wine 3 Not sold
Noisette triangle key 300 Not sold
Pineapple pizza 300 719
Plain pizza 600 1,143
Plain wrap 150 Not sold
Popcorn ball 3 Not sold
Purple sweets 45 1,321
Rabbit sandwich 600 701
Roast potatoes 3 Not sold
Rock cake 3 Not sold
Roll 120 244
Rose essence truffle 300 Not sold
Scrambled egg 24 64
Seaweed sandwich 3 Not sold
Ship's biscuit 30 Not sold
Skewered kebab 75 201
Slice of cake 30 733
Sour cream wrap 150 Not sold
Spare ribs 300 Not sold
Spicy pepper wrap 150 Not sold
Spicy sauce 27 124
Spicy stew 60 Not sold
Spinach roll 3 Not sold
Square sandwich 120 731
Stew 300 1,844
Strange fruit 3 1,213
Strawberry creme 30 Not sold
Stuffed snake 3 Not sold
Super kebab 9 1,017
Tchiki monkey nuts 15 Not sold
Tchiki nut paste 15 Not sold
Triangle sandwich 120 512
Turkey drumstick 3 Not sold
Ugthanki kebab 60 688
Ugthanki kebab (smelling) 60 2,780
Vanilla fudge log 300 Not sold
Vegetable-filled flatbread 300 Not sold
Wrapped candy 3 Not sold
Yule log 3 Not sold

Neutral food[edit | edit source]

The following are valued by the Dorgeshuun at exactly their item value, prompting Lurgon to say "You could have a go at selling that."

Item Price GE price
Bacon 5 2,922
Bacon heap 40 528
Bacon mound 80 1,412
Bacon pile 20 242
Bacon stack 10 167
Banana 2 344
Cabbage 1 903
Cabbage (Draynor Manor) 1 Not sold
Calquat fruit 54 384
Chopped onion 3 2,182
Chopped tomato 3 164
Coconut 87 9,228
Coconut (open) 87 7,239
Cooked chicken 12 219
Cooked chompy 130 540
Cooked jubbly 150 1,763
Cooked meat 30 245
Cooked rabbit 19 51
Cooked slimy eel 1 221
Cooked sweetcorn 9 86
Cooked turkey 4 Not sold
Cooked turkey drumstick 4 Not sold
Cooked undead chicken 4 72
Cooked undead meat 4 74
Dwellberries 4 3,815
Equa leaves 2 676
Fat snail meat 30 567
Giant frog legs 100 1,129
Gout tuber 200 1,075,245
Jangerberries 1 1,103
King worm 2 250
Lean snail meat 20 437
Lemon 2 518
Lemon chunks 2 31
Lemon slices 2 45
Lime 2 1,000
Lime chunks 1 38
Lime slices 2 82
Locust meat 1 236
Minced meat 8 31
Mysterious jerky 300 Not sold
Onion 12 898
Onion & tomato 5 35
Orange 70 1,919
Orange chunks 2 55
Orange slices 2 247
Papaya fruit 64 7,176
Peach 1 Not sold
Picture 2 Not sold
Pineapple 2 672
Pineapple chunks 1 467
Pineapple ring 1 27
Poorly-cooked beast meat 4 195
Poorly-cooked bird meat 4 39
Pot of cream 19 588
Premade c+t batta 195 149
Premade chocolate chip crunchies 70 134
Premade choc bomb 450 893
Premade fruit batta 195 137
Premade spicy crunchies 70 106
Premade toad batta 195 135
Premade toad crunchies 80 2,759
Premade ttl 450 1,145
Premade veg ball 270 286
Premade veg batta 195 152
Premade worm batta 195 132
Premade worm crunchies 80 76
Premade worm hole 270 285
Pumpkin 30 593,627,763
Raw potato 16 792
Red banana 5 Not sold
Roast beast meat 25 59
Roast bird meat 17 39
Roast rabbit 20 60
Rotten apple 1 Not sold
Sliced banana 2 288
Sliced red banana 5 Not sold
Spicy minced meat 8 736
Spicy tomato 3 523
Spider on shaft 40 113
Spider on stick 50 104
Strawberry 17 873
Tenti pineapple 1 Not sold
Thin snail meat 10 279
Toad's legs 2 1,557
Tomato 14 956
Ugthanki meat 5 1,181
Watermelon 48 858
Watermelon slice 16 62
White pearl 1 Not sold
White tree fruit 1 Not sold

Disliked food[edit | edit source]

The following are valued by the Dorgeshuun at half their item value, prompting Lurgon to say "I'm afraid that people don't seem to be going for fish." This includes some items that aren't actually fish.

Item Price GE price
Anchovies 7 49
Baron shark 150 Not sold
Bass 135 511
Candyfloss 250 Not sold
Cave eel 7 217
Cavefish 175 3,070
Caviar 25 619
Chopped tuna 52 856
Cod 13 91
Cooked eeligator 0 1,384
Cooked karambwan 230 1,428
Crayfish 2 53
Fish-like thing 0 Not sold
Fresh monkfish 5 Not sold
Frog spawn 2 Not sold
Fury shark 250 Not sold
Giant carp 25 Not sold
Great gunkan 300 5,363
Great maki 300 1,578
Great white shark 162 2,952
Herring 7 39
Karambwanji 5 Not sold
Lava eel 75 Not sold
Lobster 134 198
Mackerel 8 52
Manta ray 250 3,431
Minnow 2 Not sold
Monkfish 115 733
Pike 12 52
Poison karambwan 125 Not sold
Rainbow fish 60 354
Rocktail 300 4,860
Roe 10 62
Salmon 44 82
Sardine 5 33
Sea turtle 250 2,439
Seaside rock 200 Not sold
Shark 150 2,464
Shrimps 2 146
Sugar skull 333 Not sold
Swordfish 200 688
Tiger shark 1,600 Not sold
Toffee apple 333 Not sold
Trout 34 236
Tuna 60 46

Cannot be sold[edit | edit source]

The following items cannot be sold, because they are Dorgeshuun cuisine, prompting Lurgon to say "No, there's no point trying to sell Dorgeshuun foods in the market."

The following cannot be sold, for unknown reason, prompting Lurgon to say "Eww, yuk! I don't think anyone will buy that at any price."

Many other recent food items are simply not recognised as food by Lurgon, including scorpion meat, rocktail soup, and all drinks.

Update history[edit | edit source]

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  • patch 13 January 2014 (Update):
    • An issue where the text entry for gourmets would not display when entering a selling price for food has been fixed.