Calculator talk:Herblore/Potions

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Untitled[edit source]

Not sure what other calculation errors are in this article. Could we be a little more explicit. Also the formatting seems to be a little dodgy towards the bottom of the table. Everything looks consistant, so I am not sure what is wrong? If someone want to point out the errors, they will be fixed much easier. GuitarVT 04:01, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I guess it is related to the fact that not all herbs have their gemw created. Golduin 04:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Also when N/A is displayed (for example for ingredients for Relicym's balm) it should be all profit, as these ingredients are collected and cannot be bought. Golduin 04:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

It looks like that potion prices are that of the 4-dose versions, while making them gives only 3 doses. I think that most potion prices should be multiplied by .75, but not all (for example, weapon poison is always a single dose). It's a good idea though that there are 4-dose prices in the GEMW, it should stay that way. Fejesjoco 22:08, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

On a second thought, it's a mess. For example, prayer potion 5962 gp is the 3 dose version, while super strength 3894 gp is the 4 dose version. If someone gives me the green light and makes the decision, I could clean it up because I'm training herblore atm. Fejesjoco 22:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Is there any intentions to update this page? IE, including 'Total cost to make' would be VERY useful, as it's just saying how much i loose per exp atm.

Sanfew Serum[edit source]

I want to propose to remove the "High Demand" label from Sanfew Serum.


I have not been able to sell a handful of Sanfew Serums even at Mid price for months, which makes me highly doubt that there is a "high demand" for this item.

Guthix Balance / Sanfew serum Ingredients[edit source]

Would it be more accurate to list Restore potion as the basis for Guthix balance potions? This takes into account the value of the intermediate potion. Further along the same lines, should the Guthix balance(unf) be listed separately?

  • To the same end (listing separate prices for separate items) should unfinished potions be listed instead of listing the vial and herb separately? I know this last one would be far more difficult to implement, but still. Solar'spot loves name puns... And pots. 03:24, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Removing demand column[edit source]

This column seems extremely subjective and pov. It is not automatically linked into the RS GE database to determine the actual volume, and that would be the only way this column could be called verifiable and accurate. If you can find a factual reason to keep it, okay. Otherwise, I will be deleting it in a day or two.--Degenret01 05:35, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

I concur on deleting for same reasons Summoning-icon.png To3cutt3r Talk HS Log Summoning-icon.png 15:13, June 20, 2011 (UTC)


I also agree with this. I say if we get another person who agrees with this then we should do it. That's assuming someone else doesn't come along and give good reasons for why we should keep it.Lemon2020 00:06, November 15, 2011 (UTC)


TBH, I think 3 people is probably enough to remove a subjective column. Also remember to sign your posts. Summoning-icon.png To3cutt3r Talk HS Log Summoning-icon.png 18:33, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Extreme and Overloads[edit source]

Although these are not tradeable i see no reason otherwise why these cannot be added to this calculator 86.136.142.84 02:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Add column for factory gear[edit source]

I'd like to add a column showing profit/loss if you're using both scroll of cleansing and 3 pieces of flash powder factory gear. This is what I use in my Excel spreadsheet at home, but my spreadsheet does not include GE queries.

When you make potions with three-plus pieces of factory gear, you have a chance of making 4 dose potions instead of three. I've generally seen a figure of 10% chance quoted, but my statistics point to more like 12.5%; nevertheless I'd use 10% as it's more conservative. The new column would be the same as the current last column (Profit/loss with Scroll of Cleansing) except that I'd multiply the value of the 3-dose potion by 1.0333 (= 1 + 0.10/3) while leaving the costs the same.

Any comments? Is there a preferred way to preview the new table for review? If I insert the table in this talk section for comment, will the table actually work in here?

[[User:Haystacks|Haystacks 09:00, May 10, 2012 (UTC)]]

Below is modified source code for the calculation page. It adds the new column for four different potions (Super attack, Saradomin brew, Extreme attack, and Prayer renewal). These aren't meant to be the best potions you can make, just an example of different potions which benefit a different amount from the factory gear.

Calculations[edit source]

Potion Level XP Vial Herb Secondary Sale Price Profit per XP Approximate Profit/XP w/ Scroll of cleansing Approx profit w/ Scroll and Factory Gear
Super attack (3) Super attack (3) 45 100 Vial of water.png Clean irit 3219 Eye of newt.png Eye of newt 14 4,231 9.31 9.32 10.73
Saradomin brew (3) Saradomin brew (3) 81 180 Vial of water.png Clean toadflax 13304 Crushed nest.png Crushed nest 3341 14,399 -12.85 -10.99 -8.33
Extreme attack (3).png Extreme attack 88 220 N/A Super attack (3).png Super attack (3) 4231 Clean avantoe.png Clean avantoe 1213 untradeable -24.75 -24.19 -24.19
Prayer renewal (3).png Prayer renewal 94 190 Vial of water.png Clean fellstalk.png Fellstalk potion (unf) Morchella mushroom.png Morchella mushroom 19,321 -7.36 -3.31 0.08

Haystacks 08:48, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

I just updated to include the full table. This version of the table omits any cases (untradeable potions, result is already a (4) dose potion) where the profit/loss for the Scroll of Cleansing plus Factory Gear is the same as for Scroll of Cleansing alone. Please provide feedback as to which is preferred.

Calculations[edit source]

Potion Level XP Vial Herb Secondary Sale Price Profit per XP Approximate Profit/XP w/ Scroll of cleansing Approx profit w/ Scroll of Cleansing and Factory Gear
Attack potion (3) Attack potion (3) 3 25 Vial of water.png Clean guam 701 Eye of newt.png Eye of newt 14 372 -16.4 -16.34 -15.85
Antipoison (3) Antipoison (3) 5 37.5 Vial of water.png Clean marrentill 10171 Unicorn horn dust.png Unicorn horn dust 3134 331 -347.76 -339.4 -339.11
Relicym's balm (3) Relicym's balm (3) 8 40 Vial of water.png Clean rogue's purse untradeable Clean snake weed untradeable 491 10.6 NA NA
Strength potion (3) Strength potion (3) 12 50 Vial of water.png Clean tarromin 224 Limpwurt root.png Limpwurt root 4948 616 -92.46 -82.56 -82.15
Serum 207 Serum 207 15 50 Vial of water.png Clean tarromin 224 Ashes.png Ashes 140 untradeable -8.62 -8.34*
Guthix rest (4) Guthix rest (4) 18 59.5 Cup of hot water.png Clean harralander 2440
2 x Clean guam 701
Clean marrentill 10171
N/A 998 -223.58 NA NA
Guam tar Guam tar 19 30 N/A Clean guam 701 15 x Swamp tar.png Swamp tar 144 112 -39.37 NA NA
Restore potion (3) Restore potion (3) 22 62.5 Vial of water.png Clean harralander 2440 Red spiders' eggs.png Red spider's eggs 3276 249 -88.54 -83.3 -83.17
Guthix balance (3).png Guthix balance (3) 22 50 N/A Restore potion (3).png Restore potion (3) 249 Garlic.png Garlic 60
Silver dust.png Silver dust 2376
2,836 -18.31 -16.36* -15.61*
Blamish oil Blamish oil 25 80 Vial of water.png Clean harralander 2440 Blamish snail slime.png Blamish snail slime untradeable untradeable -31.34 NA NA
Energy potion (3) Energy potion (3) 26 67.5 Vial of water.png Clean harralander 2440 Chocolate dust.png Chocolate dust 747 429 -41.85 -40.75 -40.53
Defence potion (3) Defence potion (3) 30 75 Vial of water.png Clean ranarr 5260 White berries.png Whiteberries 2217 1,981 -74.17 -71.22 -70.34
Marrentill tar Marrentill tar 31 42.5 N/A Clean marrentill 10171 15 x Swamp tar.png Swamp tar 144 190 -224.66 NA NA
Super Fishing Explosive Super Fishing Explosive 31 55 Vial of water.png Clean guam 701 Rubium.png Rubium untradeable untradeable -13.96 NA NA
Agility potion (3) Agility potion (3) 34 80 Vial of water.png Clean toadflax 13304 Toad's legs.png Toad's legs 1896 337 -186.63 -184.26 -184.11
Combat potion (3) Combat potion (3) 36 84 Vial of water.png Clean harralander 2440 Goat horn dust.png Goat horn dust 1308 382 -40.87 -39.31 -39.16
Prayer potion (3) Prayer potion (3) 38 87.5 Vial of water.png Clean ranarr 5260 Snape grass.png Snape grass 343 6,553 10.09 10.48 12.98
Tarromin tar Tarromin tar 39 55 N/A Clean tarromin 224 15 x Swamp tar.png Swamp tar 144 230 19.38 NA NA
Summoning potion (3) Summoning potion (3) 40 92 Vial of water.png Clean spirit weed 18046 Cockatrice egg.png Cockatrice egg 5617 21,912 -19.76 -13.66 -5.72
Crafting potion Crafting potion 42 95 Vial of water.png Clean wergali 9762 Frog spawn.png Frogspawn untradeable 3,674 -64.79 -54.51 -53.23
Harralander tar Harralander tar 44 72.5 N/A Clean harralander 2440 15 x Swamp tar.png Swamp tar 2160 370 13.1 NA NA
Super attack (3) Super attack (3) 45 100 Vial of water.png Clean irit 3219 Eye of newt.png Eye of newt 14 4,231 9.31 9.32 10.73
Super antipoison (3) Super antipoison (3) 48 106.3 Vial of water.png Clean irit 3219 Unicorn horn dust.png Unicorn horn dust 3134 7,627 11.35 14.3 16.69
Fishing potion (3) Fishing potion (3) 50 112.5 Vial of water.png Clean avantoe 1213 Snape grass.png Snape grass 343 440 -10.52 -10.21 -10.08
Super energy (3) Super energy (3) 52 117.5 Vial of water.png Clean avantoe 1213 Mort myre fungus.png Mort myre fungi 2798 4,850 6.57 8.95 10.33
Shrinking potion Shrinking potion 52 6 Vial of water.png Clean tarromin 224 Shrunk ogleroot 1.png Shrunk ogleroot untradeable untradeable -48.5 -44.77
Hunter potion (3) Hunter potion (3) 53 120 Vial of water.png Clean avantoe 1213 Kebbit teeth dust.png Kebbit teeth dust 16091 16,226 -9.54 3.87 8.37
Super strength (3) Super strength (3) 55 125 Vial of water.png Clean kwuarm 17906 Limpwurt root.png Limpwurt root 4948 23,256 2.68 6.64 12.83
Magic essence potion Magic essence potion 57 130 Vial of water.png Star flower.png Starflower untradeable Crushed gorak claw Crushed gorak claw untradeable

untradeable -0.52 -0.52*
Fletching potion Fletching potion 58 132 Vial of water.png Clean wergali 9762 Wimpy feather.png Wimpy feather 350 619 -72.42 -72.16* -72*
Weapon poison Weapon poison 60 137.5 Vial of water.png Clean kwuarm 17906 Dragon scale dust.png Blue dragon scale 4000 10,745 -81.66 -78.75*
Super restore (3) Super restore (3) 63 142.5 Vial of water.png Clean snapdragon 1900 Red spiders' eggs.png Red spider's eggs 3276 4,809 -3.05 -0.75 0.38
Sanfew serum (4) Sanfew serum (4) 65 192 N/A Super restore (3).png Super restore (4) 6337 Unicorn horn dust.png Unicorn horn dust 3134
Clean snake weed.png Clean snake weed untradeable
Nail beast nails.png Nail beast nails 192
6,246 -17.8 -16.06*
Super defence (3) Super defence (3) 66 150 Vial of water.png Clean cadantine 6395 White berries.png Whiteberries 2217 10,043 9.54 11.02 13.25
Antipoison+ (4) Antipoison+ (4) 68 155 Coconut milk.png 9180 Clean toadflax 13304 Yew roots.png Yew roots 943 6,943 -106.35 -105.74
Antifire (3) Antifire (3) 69 157.5 Vial of water.png Clean lantadyme 8754 Dragon scale dust.png Dragon scale dust 4000 13,143 2.99 5.44 8.21
Ranging potion (3) Ranging potion (3) 72 162.5 Vial of water.png Clean dwarf weed 17773 Wine of Zamorak.png Wine of Zamorak 9216 1,494 -157.3 -151.63 -151.33
Weapon poison+ Weapon poison+ 73 165 Coconut milk.png 9180 Cactus spine Cactus spine 4692 Red spiders' eggs.png Red spider's eggs 3276 944 -98.21 -96.22*
Magic potion (3) Magic potion (3) 76 172.5 Vial of water.png Clean lantadyme 8754 Potato cactus.png Potato cactus 1494 1,118 -53.32 -52.45 -52.23
Zamorak brew (3) Zamorak brew (3) 78 175 Vial of water.png Torstol potion (unf)*** 6435 Jangerberries.png Jangerberries 966 948 -37.26 -36.71 -36.52
Antipoison++ (3) Antipoison++ (3) 79 177.5 Coconut milk.png 9180 Clean irit 3219 Magic roots.png Magic roots 4638 3,674 -75.28 -72.67* -71.98*
Saradomin brew (3) Saradomin brew (3) 81 180 Vial of water.png Clean toadflax 13304 Crushed nest.png Crushed nest 3341 14,399 -12.85 -10.99 -8.33
Weapon poison++ (3).png Weapon poison++ 82 190 Coconut milk.png 9180 Cave nightshade.png Nightshade untradeable Poison ivy berries.png Poison ivy berries 8214 27,776 54.64 58.97*
Adrenaline potion (3).png Recover special 84 200 N/A Super energy (3).png Super energy (3) 4850 Papaya fruit.png Papaya 7265 untradeable -60.58 -56.94
Super antifire (3).png Super antifire 85 210 N/A Antifire (3).png Antifire (3) 13143 Phoenix feather.png Phoenix feather untradeable untradeable -62.59 -62.59*
Extreme attack (3).png Extreme attack 88 220 N/A Super attack (3).png Super attack (3) 4231 Clean avantoe.png Clean avantoe 1213 untradeable -24.75 -24.19
Extreme strength (3).png Extreme strength 89 230 N/A Super strength (3).png Super strength (3) 23256 Clean dwarf weed.png Clean dwarf weed 17773 untradeable -178.39 -170.66
Extreme defence (3).png Extreme defence 90 240 N/A Super defence (3).png Super defence (3) 10043 Clean lantadyme.png Clean lantadyme 8754 untradeable -78.32 -74.67
Extreme magic (3).png Extreme magic 91 250 N/A Magic potion (4).png Magic potion (3) 1118 Ground mud runes.png Ground mud runes 831 untradeable -7.8 -7.46
Extreme ranging (3).png Extreme ranging 92 260 N/A Ranging potion (3).png Ranging potion (3) 1494 Grenwall spikes 5.png 5 Grenwall spikes 7970 untradeable -36.4 -33.33
Super prayer (3).png Super prayer 94 270 N/A Prayer potion (3).png Prayer potion (3) 6553 Bonemeal (Bones).png Wyvern bonemeal 12612 untradeable -70.98 -66.31
Prayer renewal (3).png Prayer renewal 94 190 Vial of water.png Clean fellstalk.png Fellstalk potion (unf) Morchella mushroom.png Morchella mushroom 19,321 -7.36 -3.31 0.08
Overload (3).png Overload 96 1000 N/A Extreme attackExtreme strengthExtreme defenceExtreme magicExtreme ranging
Extreme attack (3), Extreme strength (3), Extreme defence (3), Extreme magic (3), Extreme ranging (3)
108812
Clean torstol.png Clean torstol 8660 untradeable -53.4 -53
  • Scroll of Cleansing
    • The Scroll of Cleansing is a Dungeoneering Reward that costs 20,000 tokens
    • It has a 1 in 10 chance of saving a secondary when mixing potions. This effect may save the herb you are mixing with a vial or water, or the secondary ingredient you are adding to an unfinished potion
    • It also has a 1 in 8 chance of mixing a potion quicker
    • Experiences per profit marked with a * may not be supported by the effect, but Jagex will update in the future
      • since torstol (unf) is far lower priced than clean torstol the price for the unf potion has been used
  • Factory Gear
    • Factory Gear is a reward from the Flash Powder Factory mini-game. When you wear any three of the five pieces of factory gear while mixing potions, there is a 1 in 10 chance of producing a 4-dose potion instead of a 3-dose.

Haystacks 07:43, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

When you mark items with an asterisk (*) please ensure the matching asterisks are not turned into lists[edit source]

Which is unprofessional.

* ← To prevent that asterisk from changing into a list, I simply surrounded it with <nowiki> tags: <nowiki>*</nowiki>. I can't correct these mistakes on the main page, because I don't understand the logic behind most of those notes. A more knowledgeable herbalist should take a look. 3ICE (talk) 04:59, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

The new Magic and Ranging potions are missing.

Don't use asterisks to denote stipulations. Instead, use the ref tags as such: <ref>This is a stipulation</ref>, followed by <references /> tag at the end of the page. This makes a superscripted link that takes users to the reference table to show a full explanation. See RuneScape:Style_guide/References_and_citations. --XAleXOwnZX 03:02, August 31, 2015 (UTC)

Juju Potions[edit source]

Now that (perfect) Juju potions are tradable, they should be added to this calculator --XAleXOwnZX 21:00, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Friggin create a templated calculator[edit source]

Can someone, create a base template for the calculator, to make abstract edition less painful? (So like, if one wants to add a column, one doesn't have to edit, every individual cell, but just moify the template) 181.50.168.89 06:21, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

SOC GP/XP is broken[edit source]

In every case the XP/Gp for the SOC is the exact same as in the case where SOC isn't used. I think that the last column is broken, and should be fixed or removed. 149.43.212.93 18:48, April 5, 2018 (UTC)