Calculator:Herblore/Efficient Profit

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This calculator shows profit/losses from training the Herblore skill efficiently. This calculator assumes that you are making potions from grimy herbs, using a Portable well, have the Scroll of cleansing, and are decanting into Potion flasks. These numbers are estimates based on the likelihood of the effects of the portable well and the scroll of cleansing, but they are quite reliable. Untradeable potions and potions requiring untradeable ingredients are omitted as this guide/calculator is designed for bulk training with concern for profit.


Reasoning:[edit source]

Grimy herbs: Grimy herbs are frequently cheaper than their clean alternatives and the experience from cleaning them is not negligible, as opposed to making unfinished potions. If profit/expenditure is your main concern, cleaning your own herbs and making your own unfinished potions is worth the time.

Portable well: The portable well boosts Herblore experience by 10% and gives a 5% chance of making an extra potion. This 5% is applied when making unfinished potions and again when finishing potions with secondary ingredients. Portable wells are frequently hosted at the Combat academy, which you can use at no cost to you, though it is nice to help out the community by deploying some portable wells that you have purchased.

Scroll of cleansing: The scroll of cleansing can be purchased from Marmaros Thokson in Daemonheim for 20,000 Dungeoneering tokens. The scroll gives a 12.5% chance that a potion will be created twice as fast as usual. The scroll also gives a 10% chance of salvaging an herb added to a vial of water and salvaging a secondary ingredient when added to an unfinished potion.

Decanting to Potion flasks: Decanting to flasks does not always increase profit. To see if decanting is profitable, check the Calculator:Herblore/Flask decanting page. However, decanting to flasks can be done for free, in bulk (noted items), and almost instantly with the help of Teplin Macagan after completion of As a First Resort. Because this can be done so quickly, can be immensely profitable, and if profit is your motive, I highly suggest only making potions which are profitable to decant. Note that the Grand exchange limits players to buying 1K potion flasks per 4 hours. This means that a maximum of 6K flasks can be purchased during 1 day under optimal circumstances.

Process (standard potions):[edit source]

The following is the process to replicate (as close as possible) the optimal calculations shown in the below table. Buying 1,000 herbs was used as a way to calculate more accurate averages for the sake of representation. With smaller sample sizes, results will vary more widely, but over time will average out to the calculations shown in the below table.

1. Buy 1,000 grimy variants of the herb for your selected potion. Herbs can be slower to purchase at GE market prices, but the more profitable potions can still turn a significant profit even while buying herbs at higher than market price.

2. Clean your grimy herbs. This is done fastest by setting a Bank preset for quick withdrawing.

3. Find a world where a Portable well is being hosted. This information can be found by searching for 'portable locations' in the Runescape forums.

4. Add your herbs to vials of water using the portable well. By adding 1,000 herbs to vials of water, you will yield (on average) 1050 unfinished potions due to the effect of the portable well. Due to the effect of the scroll of cleansing, you will have saved (on average) 100 herbs. By adding those 100 herbs to vials of water, you will yield (on average) 105 unfinished potions and saved (on average) 10 herbs. By adding those 10 herbs to vials of water, you will yield (on average) 10 unfinished potions and saved (on average) 1 herb. This herb (on average) will make 1 unfinished potion and will not be saved. This process will yield in total, and of course on average, 1,166 unfinished potions and use 1,111 vials of water.

5. Due to the 10% chance to save secondary ingredients, your 1,166 unfinished potions will require (on average) 1,060 secondary ingredients. (1,060 * 1.1 = 1,166) Buy a little more than this amount (to avoid having to go back to the Grand exchange) and add them to your unfinished potions at the portable well. The 5% chance to make an extra potion will be applied again over this process at the portable well. This will yield (on average) 1,224 finished 3-dose potions.

6. Buy 612 (half the amount of your 3-dose potions rounded down) Potion flasks at the Grand exchange. Bring your noted potion flasks and noted 3-dose potions to Teplin Macagan and have him decant your potions into your flasks. Sell these flasks at the grand exchange. It may take some time for your flasks to sell at market prices, but again the more profitable potions may still turn a significant profit even selling at a little lower than market price.


Potion Level
Req.
XP Cost of Initial Ingredients Cost of 1060
Secondary Ingredients
Cost of 612
Potion Flasks
Total Cost Price of 612
Full Flasks
Profit/Loss Per
Herb Purchased
Attack potion (3).png Attack potion 1 25 Grimy guam.png 1000 X Grimy guam 343,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 416,326
Eye of newt.png 1060 X Eye of newt
6,360
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
3,996,154 Attack flask (6).png 612 X Attack flask (6)
3,550,824
-445.33
Ranging potion (3).png Ranging potion 3 30 Grimy guam.png 1000 X Grimy guam 343,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 416,326
Redberries.png 1060 X Redberries
556,500
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
4,546,294 Ranging flask (6).png 612 X Ranging flask (6)
8,642,052
4,095.76
Magic potion (3).png Magic potion 5 35 Grimy tarromin.png 1000 X Grimy tarromin 31,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 104,326
Yellow bead.png 1060 X Yellow bead
438,840
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
4,116,634 Magic flask (6).png 612 X Magic flask (6)
9,889,308
5,772.67
Strength potion (3).png Strength potion 7 4 Grimy tarromin.png 1000 X Grimy tarromin 31,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 104,326
Limpwurt root.png 1060 X Limpwurt root
1,237,020
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
4,914,814 Strength flask (6).png 612 X Strength flask (6)
4,333,572
-581.24
Defence potion (3).png Defence potion 9 45 Grimy marrentill.png 1000 X Grimy marrentill 375,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 448,326
Bear fur.png 1060 X Bear fur
400,680
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
4,422,474 Defence flask (6).png 612 X Defence flask (6)
5,632,236
1,209.76
Antipoison (3).png Antipoison 13 50 Grimy marrentill.png 1000 X Grimy marrentill 375,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 448,326
Unicorn horn dust.png 1060 X Unicorn horn dust
442,020
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
4,463,814 Antipoison flask (6).png 612 X Antipoison flask (6)
6,989,652
2,525.84
Guthix rest (3).png Guthix rest 18 59.5 Grimy harralander.png 1000 X Grimy harralander 69,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 142,326
Clean marrentill.png 1060 X Clean marrentill
470,640
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
4,186,434 Guthix rest flask (6).png 612 X Guthix rest flask (6)
7,613,280
3,426.85
Restore potion (3).png Restore potion 22 62.5 Grimy harralander.png 1000 X Grimy harralander 69,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 142,326
Red spiders' eggs.png 1060 X Red spiders' eggs
1,916,480
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
5,632,274 Restore flask (6).png 612 X Restore flask (6)
6,273,612
641.34
Energy potion (3).png Energy potion 26 67.5 Grimy harralander.png 1000 X Grimy harralander 69,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 142,326
Chocolate dust.png 1060 X Chocolate dust
205,640
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
3,921,434 Energy flask (6).png 612 X Energy flask (6)
5,978,628
2,057.19
Agility potion (3).png Agility potion 34 80 Grimy toadflax.png 1000 X Grimy toadflax 4,363,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 4,436,326
Toad's legs.png 1060 X Toad's legs
886,160
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
8,895,954 Agility flask (6).png 612 X Agility flask (6)
6,179,364
-2,716.59
Combat potion (3).png Combat potion 36 84 Grimy harralander.png 1000 X Grimy harralander 69,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 142,326
Goat horn dust.png 1060 X Goat horn dust
753,660
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
4,469,454 Combat flask (6).png 612 X Combat flask (6)
5,688,540
1,219.09
Prayer potion (3).png Prayer potion 38 87.5 Grimy ranarr.png 1000 X Grimy ranarr 1,536,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 1,609,326
Snape grass.png 1060 X Snape grass
49,820
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
5,232,614 Prayer flask (6).png 612 X Prayer flask (6)
5,910,084
677.47
Summoning potion (3).png Summoning potion 40 92 Grimy spirit weed.png 1000 X Grimy spirit weed 4,826,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 4,899,326
Cockatrice egg.png 1060 X Cockatrice egg
2,974,360
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
11,447,154 Summoning flask (6).png 612 X Summoning flask (6)
14,432,796
2,985.64
Divination potion (3).png Divination potion 43 97.5 Grimy spirit weed.png 1000 X Grimy spirit weed 4,826,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 4,899,326
Rabbit foot.png 1060 X Rabbit foot
707,020
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
9,179,814 Divination flask (6).png 612 X Divination flask (6)
1,946,160
-7,233.65
Super attack (3).png Super attack 45 100 Grimy irit.png 1000 X Grimy irit 3,889,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 3,962,326
Eye of newt.png 1060 X Eye of newt
6,360
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
7,542,154 Super attack flask (6).png 612 X Super attack flask (6)
7,676,928
134.77
Super antipoison (3).png Super antipoison 48 106.3 Grimy irit.png 1000 X Grimy irit 3,889,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 3,962,326
Unicorn horn dust.png 1060 X Unicorn horn dust
442,020
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
7,977,814 Super antipoison flask (6).png 612 X Super antipoison flask (6)
9,260,784
1,282.97
Fishing potion (3).png Fishing potion 50 112.5 Grimy avantoe.png 1000 X Grimy avantoe 756,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 829,326
Snape grass.png 1060 X Snape grass
49,820
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
4,452,614 Fishing flask (6).png 612 X Fishing flask (6)
4,240,548
-212.07
Super energy (3).png Super energy 52 117.5 Grimy avantoe.png 1000 X Grimy avantoe 756,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 829,326
Mort myre fungus.png 1060 X Mort myre fungus
2,184,660
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
6,587,454 Super energy flask (6).png 612 X Super energy flask (6)
6,303,600
-283.85
Hunter potion (3).png Hunter potion 53 120 Grimy avantoe.png 1000 X Grimy avantoe 756,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 829,326
Kebbit teeth dust.png 1060 X Kebbit teeth dust
1,951,460
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
6,354,254 Hunter flask (6).png 612 X Hunter flask (6)
3,576,528
-2,777.73
Runecrafting potion (3).png Runecrafting potion 54 122.5 Grimy wergali.png 1000 X Grimy wergali 1,444,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 1,517,326
Fallfaced wool.png 1060 X Fallfaced wool
40,280
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
5,131,074 Runecrafting flask (6).png 612 X Runecrafting flask (6)
1,778,472
-3,352.6
Super strength (3).png Super strength 55 125 Grimy kwuarm.png 1000 X Grimy kwuarm 5,808,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 5,881,326
Limpwurt root.png 1060 X Limpwurt root
1,237,020
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
10,691,814 Super strength flask (6).png 612 X Super strength flask (6)
9,429,084
-1,262.73
Fletching potion (3).png Fletching potion 58 132 Grimy wergali.png 1000 X Grimy wergali 1,444,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 1,517,326
Wimpy feather.png 1060 X Wimpy feather
807,720
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
5,898,514 Fletching flask (6).png 612 X Fletching flask (6)
3,228,300
-2,670.21
Weapon poison (3).png Weapon poison 60 137.5 Grimy kwuarm.png 1000 X Grimy kwuarm 5,808,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 5,881,326
Dragon scale dust.png 1060 X Dragon scale dust
142,040
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
9,596,834 Weapon poison flask (6).png 612 X Weapon poison flask (6)
3,162,204
-6,434.63
Super restore (3).png Super restore 63 142.5 Grimy snapdragon.png 1000 X Grimy snapdragon 964,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 1,037,326
Red spiders' eggs.png 1060 X Red spiders' eggs
1,916,480
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
6,527,274 Super restore flask (6).png 612 X Super restore flask (6)
6,564,312
37.04
Super defence (3).png Super defence 66 150 Grimy cadantine.png 1000 X Grimy cadantine 2,850,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 2,923,326
White berries.png 1060 X White berries
1,378,000
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
7,874,794 Super defence flask (6).png 612 X Super defence flask (6)
7,948,044
73.25
Antipoison+ (3).png Antipoison+ 68 155 Grimy toadflax.png 1000 X Grimy toadflax 4,363,000
Coconut milk.png 1111 X Coconut milk 5,282,805
Total cost: 9,645,805
Yew roots.png 1060 X Yew roots
990,040
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
14,209,313 Antipoison+ flask (6).png 612 X Antipoison+ flask (6)
15,298,776
1,089.46
Antifire (3).png Antifire 69 157.5 Grimy lantadyme.png 1000 X Grimy lantadyme 4,070,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 4,143,326
Dragon scale dust.png 1060 X Dragon scale dust
142,040
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
7,858,834 Antifire flask (6).png 612 X Antifire flask (6)
7,849,512
-9.32
Super ranging potion (3).png Super ranging potion 72 162.5 Grimy dwarf weed.png 1000 X Grimy dwarf weed 3,966,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 4,039,326
Wine of Zamorak.png 1060 X Wine of Zamorak
6,354,700
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
13,967,494 Super ranging flask (6).png 612 X Super ranging flask (6)
13,263,876
-703.62
Super magic potion (3).png Super magic potion 76 172.5 Grimy lantadyme.png 1000 X Grimy lantadyme 4,070,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 4,143,326
Potato cactus.png 1060 X Potato cactus
1,406,620
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
9,123,414 Super magic flask (6).png 612 X Super magic flask (6)
8,627,976
-495.44
Invention potion (3).png Invention potion 77 175 Grimy snapdragon.png 1000 X Grimy snapdragon 964,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 1,037,326
Chinchompa residue.png 1060 X Chinchompa residue
71,020
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
4,681,814 Invention flask (6).png 612 X Invention flask (6)
1,934,532
-2,747.28
Zamorak brew (3).png Zamorak brew 78 175 Grimy torstol.png 1000 X Grimy torstol 3,539,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 3,612,326
Jangerberries.png 1060 X Jangerberries
289,380
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
7,475,174 Zamorak brew flask (6).png 612 X Zamorak brew flask (6)
4,728,312
-2,746.86
Antipoison++ (3).png Antipoison++ 79 177.5 Grimy irit.png 1000 X Grimy irit 3,889,000
Coconut milk.png 1111 X Coconut milk 5,282,805
Total cost: 9,171,805
Magic roots.png 1060 X Magic roots
4,031,180
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
16,776,453 Antipoison++ flask (6).png 612 X Antipoison++ flask (6)
6,214,248
-10,562.2
Saradomin brew (3).png Saradomin brew 81 180 Grimy toadflax.png 1000 X Grimy toadflax 4,363,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 4,436,326
Crushed nest.png 1060 X Crushed nest
1,022,900
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
9,032,694 Saradomin brew flask (6).png 612 X Saradomin brew flask (6)
8,929,080
-103.61
Aggression potion (3).png Aggression potion 82 185 Grimy bloodweed.png 1000 X Grimy bloodweed 20,214,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 20,287,326
Searing ashes.png 1060 X Searing ashes
37,084,100
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
60,944,894 Aggression flask (6).png 612 X Aggression flask (6)
61,223,868
278.97
Prayer renewal (3).png Prayer renewal 94 190 Grimy fellstalk.png 1000 X Grimy fellstalk 3,387,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 3,460,326
Morchella mushroom.png 1060 X Morchella mushroom
3,209,680
Potion flask.png 612 X Potion flask
3,573,468
10,243,474 Prayer renewal flask (6).png 612 X Prayer renewal flask (6)
10,970,712
727.24


Process (potions made from other potions):[edit source]

Some potions such as Super Guthix rest and Super Zamorak brew are made by adding additional ingredients to a complete potion. This changes the calculations slightly, so this type of potion is in a separate table. This guide/table assumes that you are making the initial potion from scratch.

1. Make the initial potions just as described in the first process, but do not decant the potions into flasks. This will leave you with (on average) 1,224 complete potions.

2. Due to the 10% chance to save secondary ingredients, your 1,224 potions will require (on average) 1,114 tertiary ingredients. (1,113.72 * 1.1 ≈ 1,224) Buy a little more than this amount (to avoid having to go back to the Grand exchange) and add them to your potions at the portable well. The 5% chance to make an extra potion will be applied again over this process at the portable well. This will yield (on average) 1,285 finished 3-dose potions.

3. Buy 642 (half the amount of your 3-dose potions rounded down) Potion flasks at the Grand exchange. Bring your noted potion flasks and noted 3-dose potions to Teplin Macagan and have him decant your potions into your flasks. Sell these flasks at the grand exchange. It may take some time for your flasks to sell at market prices, but again the more profitable potions may still turn a significant profit even selling at a little lower than market price.

Potion Level
Req.
XP Cost of Initial Ingredients Cost of 1060
Secondary Ingredients
Cost of 1114
Tertiary Ingredients
Cost of 642
Potion Flasks
Total Cost Price of 642
Full Flasks
Profit/Loss Per
Herb Purchased
Guthix balance (3).png Guthix balance 22 50 Grimy harralander.png 1000 X Grimy harralander 69,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 142,326
Red spiders' eggs.png 1060 X Red spiders' eggs
1,916,480
Garlic.png 1114 X Garlic 377,646
Silver dust.png 1114 X Silver dust 1,147,420
Total cost: 1,525,066
Potion flask.png 642 X Potion flask
3,748,638
7,332,510 Guthix balance flask (6).png 642 X Guthix balance flask (6)
3,927,756
-3,404.75
Super hunter (3).png Super hunter 64 145 Grimy avantoe.png 1000 X Grimy avantoe 756,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 829,326
Kebbit teeth dust.png 1060 X Kebbit teeth dust
1,951,460
Rabbit teeth.png 1114 X Rabbit teeth 49,016 Potion flask.png 642 X Potion flask
3,748,638
6,578,440 Super hunter flask (6).png 642 X Super hunter flask (6)
2,123,736
-4,454.7
Super divination (3).png Super divination 70 160 Grimy spirit weed.png 1000 X Grimy spirit weed 4,826,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 4,899,326
Rabbit foot.png 1060 X Rabbit foot
707,020
Zygomite fruit.png 1114 X Zygomite fruit 89,120 Potion flask.png 642 X Potion flask
3,748,638
9,444,104 Super divination flask (6).png 642 X Super divination flask (6)
2,316,336
-7,127.77
Super runecrafting (3).png Super runecrafting 75 170 Grimy wergali.png 1000 X Grimy wergali 1,444,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 1,517,326
Fallfaced wool.png 1060 X Fallfaced wool
40,280
Yak milk.png 1114 X Yak milk 4,444,860 Potion flask.png 642 X Potion flask
3,748,638
9,751,104 Super runecrafting flask (6).png 642 X Super runecrafting flask (6)
2,041,560
-7,709.54
Super Saradomin brew (3).png Super Saradomin brew 93 180 Grimy toadflax.png 1000 X Grimy toadflax 4,363,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 4,436,326
Crushed nest.png 1060 X Crushed nest
1,022,900
Wine of Saradomin.png 1114 X Wine of Saradomin 74,288,204 Potion flask.png 642 X Potion flask
3,748,638
83,496,068 Super Saradomin brew flask (6).png 642 X Super Saradomin brew flask (6)
81,309,942
-2,186.13
Super Zamorak brew (3).png Super Zamorak brew 93 180 Grimy torstol.png 1000 X Grimy torstol 3,539,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 3,612,326
Jangerberries.png 1060 X Jangerberries
289,380
Wine of Zamorak.png 1114 X Wine of Zamorak 6,678,430 Potion flask.png 642 X Potion flask
3,748,638
14,328,774 Super Zamorak brew flask (6).png 642 X Super Zamorak brew flask (6)
12,396,378
-1,932.4
Super Guthix rest (3).png Super Guthix rest 93 59.5 Grimy harralander.png 1000 X Grimy harralander 69,000
Vial of water.png 1111 X Vial of water 73,326
Total cost: 142,326
Clean marrentill.png 1060 X Clean marrentill
470,640
Wine of Guthix.png 1114 X Wine of Guthix 1,305,608 Potion flask.png 642 X Potion flask
3,748,638
5,667,212 Super Guthix brew flask (6).png 642 X Super Guthix brew flask (6)
11,712,648
6,045.44

Conclusion:[edit source]

Making the flasks in the bottom table is generally not worth it if your interest is profit. The only exception is the Super Guthix rest, which can be solid money and decent experience. If your goal is to maximize experience without losing any money, it's generally best to sort the top table by XP in descending order and pick the first potion that you can make that yields a profit. It may be that there is a higher experience, profitable potion for you if you don't decant to flasks so be sure to check out other methods!